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damon carson
11-22-2010, 07:43 AM
Well St. Louis made the list for the most dangerous city again. What not a better place for Transworld.?! Police say crime rate has dropped considerably since 2007.
Damon

lurker
11-22-2010, 08:33 AM
Yeah, don't forget to pack some heat in March...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hjbTudvgLq379jbYawS7w_WOFUjA?docId=22c9981f4 ca34807ba7ac8dc07726067

Dr Spooktakular
11-22-2010, 08:42 AM
Maybe it's time for TW to move a little further South, like say, DFW area in TEXAS, the weather here is a lot nicer, better airport, more to do, more haunts to visit, etc... Need I say more, move TW out of St Louis or many may stop attending!

graystone
11-22-2010, 11:13 AM
They climbing in your windows snatching your people up! So hide ya wife, hide ya kids and hide ya husbands too cause they raping errrr body up in St. Louis LOL! Shane and it's why not have fun!

Oh and for those attending the Insane Shane TransWorld Kick Off Party None other than Huntsville Alabama's own Antione Dobson will be attending the party!!! YOU READ IT FIRST HERE!!! I was gonna announce it later but this is the best time!

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damon carson
11-22-2010, 11:30 AM
LOL! That was good Shane!
Damon

HauntedMemphis
11-22-2010, 11:33 AM
I live in the Memphis area. St. Louis is a vacation as far as most dangerous...

mindtumor
11-22-2010, 11:58 AM
I don't know how much stock I would put into this. I mean it has Flint as 4th. I live like 15 minutes from Flint and it isn't really that bad. It still sucks as a city but whatever.

Mad Wax Sculptor
11-22-2010, 12:17 PM
I agree Dallas would be better. Better weather and more haunts for sure. Look at all the accommodations recently added for the cowboys and the superbowl . St Louis is in my opinion dangerous. last yr I was out walking (yeah by myself) down by the bar district by the river when a guy tried to jump me. You gotta understand I'm no easy mark 6ft 7 300lbs ex semi pro wrestler. I was amazed the guy wouldn't leave me alone and kept trying to get into my space until I reached into my coat an said I had a knife and would gut him like a fish . There were some nice people but also some crazies . I was amused and joking about it later but wondered what if I had not been me and some one else it would have been bad.I thought id seen it all

xxxdirk
11-22-2010, 12:22 PM
Hey Shane, you thinking about having your party again?? If yes, what day?

damon carson
11-22-2010, 01:53 PM
I think this is exaggerated! I dont see how St. Louis could be worse than New York, Detroit, or even Chicago. We walked all over the city while we were there. Only ran into one guy once asking for money. He was a bit pushey claimed it was for some christian organization ect. Later we saw him buying booze in the liquor store. And was asked by someguy if we wanted to buy a stereo at a red light. LOL! That was a first. Said his boss gave it to him brand new in the box. One hell of a boss huh.
Damon

graystone
11-22-2010, 02:13 PM
Yes I am hosting a party again. I will give info in a few weeks but a bigger room has been booked and paid for. Shane and it's more to come! Shane this time!

Darkangel
11-22-2010, 02:28 PM
Are you joking you're bringing that clown in? What's he have to do with the haunt industry he brings nothing to the table.... How is this guy now even considered a celebrity these days anyway, really reflects poorly on our society? It should take more than a gay dude from the projects crying on youtube to generate so much attention... His rant is now a song on itunes....shaking my head in disgust...

Hey Shane, you should go after some Horror guys like Romero, Zombie, Englund, Hodder, etc...

DA

Jolly Pumpkin
11-22-2010, 03:19 PM
A couple of years ago Over-the-Rhine in Cincinnati was ranked the most dangerous place in America, but East Saint Louis makes Over The Rhine look like a walk in the park. Last year I accidentally drove down East Saint Louis and it's the most God forsaken place I've ever been to. I was worried if I would come out alive in one piece. So, if they are considering East Saint Louis part of Missouri, then I would have to agree with Saint Louis being the most dangerous city in America. But East Saint Louis is in Illinois technically.

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damon carson
11-22-2010, 05:29 PM
I believe I have actually seen a few of of those places. Late one night got lost. I didnt stop. Looks like a great backdrop for a zombie movie doesnt it.
Damon

MarkSchaefer
11-22-2010, 05:34 PM
Convention area seemed safe and clean to me plus hotels were across the street for those scared of walking in strange town. There were several nice bars/restaurants & other business within few blocks that appeared UN daunted with local problems. On another trip to surrounding area couple years a go there were found dozens of historic similar business striving. Yes, I suppose if one doesn’t own a GPS, coherent enough to listen to directions or plain misses crossing largest river in North America into hell on earth they would be better off staying at home less going any where for a convention.

Jolly Pumpkin
11-22-2010, 05:56 PM
Downtown seemed pretty safe. The problem with a GPS is if you don't know the area, the GPS can take you into a bad neighborhood to get you to the next point. I was an idiot and accidentally left it on Simulation mode and it had me going straight without saying anything. Eventually I was in East Saint Louis before I realized what I had done.

smasters
11-22-2010, 06:24 PM
Your pretty much safe in St. Louis. BUT cross over the river at midnight and your done. 6 out of 10 people are victims.

Smasters

FEAR ASYLUM
11-22-2010, 06:34 PM
In glock we trust

freak 'n' stein
11-22-2010, 07:06 PM
They climbing in your windows snatching your people up! So hide ya wife, hide ya kids and hide ya husbands too cause they raping errrr body up in St. Louis LOL! Shane and it's why not have fun!

Oh and for those attending the Insane Shane TransWorld Kick Off Party None other than Huntsville Alabama's own Antione Dobson will be attending the party!!! YOU READ IT FIRST HERE!!! I was gonna announce it later but this is the best time!

QzRZWpeofic

You'd be my hero Shane! Even more-so than you are already!! hahaha...Antoine Dodson is pretty much the epitome of a Youtube Overnight Celeb....he did absolutely nothing and has profited tenfold! lmaooooo

Jim Warfield
11-22-2010, 07:58 PM
Several movies filmed in E. St. Louis?
"Escape From New York"? (#1)
and the movie with Ice Cube and Bill Paxton and others about guys looking for a treasure of money stashed in one of those decrepid buildings? About 40 years ago I moved my family (wife & Toddler) to the seedy part of a town of 25,000, my Wife was scared to live there, I reassured her saying, "This is just like Mount Carroll, just a bunch of retired farmers, nothing to be afraid of...a few days later my afternoon nap (I worked nights and went to school) was interupted by a great many sirens all stopped just up the hill less than three blocks away.
Policemen on the force for 20 years were later vomiting in the yard when they saw the crime inside that house. It involved murder, suicide , a victim tied to a chair and tortured first...just like Mount Carroll! Sure.
Crime can happen anywhere, even in your underware!

wickedfarmer
11-22-2010, 09:04 PM
In glock we trust

Mine is decked out with a crimson trace laser.

drfrightner
11-23-2010, 04:22 AM
Let me put my two cents in the hat...

St. Louis isn't dangerous AT ALL... not even close.

St. Louis just like any other town or city as many different sections to it... the biggest part is the COUNTY like where i live St. Charles nothing hardly goes on here like murders and crime like how they make these lists.

The city the focus here is SQUARE ON THE CITY not the media market as a whole...

But let me tell you teh downtown area of St. Louis where this show is is so safe its unreal... they've turned almost every building into a apartement or loft or whatever, they've renovated like everything, zillions or places to go and everything else.

The reason PART of St. Louis city is dangerous is because VERY VERY FAR away from downtown is some really poor area's where murder is high I guess... but its no where close to downtown and no where close to the COUNTY... we are talking about a handful of area's where people live poor sections just like any other cities has and I guesss that is what they are talking about.

I've been running a haunted house and nightclub and worked downtown as a DJ for a total of something like 20 years and I've never seen or heard of anyone I know getting mugged, robbed, or well murdered.

This is SO FAR away from downtown and and in such smaller area's just like parts of LA where people are murdered every single day... does that that Bervery Hills dangerous??? In LA they have tons of gangs, and killings like every single hour on the hour but its in EAST LA... a place everyone will tell you DO NOT GO THERE... if you don't you should survive a trip to LA. LOL Same with St. Louis, Detroit, or anywhere else.

drfrightner
11-23-2010, 04:27 AM
Jolly,

From watching your video it looks like you went to the good sections of East St. Louis... if people ONLY watched your video they would get the perception that East St. Louis was a place you could retire, raise a family and well maybe start a business. LOL

DUDE... the pictures you took are NOTHING... that place is 10 times worse. They find people dead over there every week.

Larry

mindtumor
11-23-2010, 07:28 AM
I've gotten lost in East St. Louis TWICE! Terrible. I've been lost in the Detroit ghetto too. And the Chicago ghetto. They are all scary when you are in the bad part of town, believe me. Detroit has some really terrible spots but has some really nice spots too. I mean some of the places in in the Detroit metro area are really really cool. I think you get that with any metro area thats 5+million people living there.

Back to St. Louis and OP. The little downtown area in St. Louis its not bad. I think it would be more enjoyable if it were warmer when we were there. I don't really have a lot of time whenever I'm there to do anything anyway though. I will give St. Louis credit for having one of the coolest things and thats the arch. There is some haunted houses there too I keep being told. Other than that it seems like any other city. Except Chicago. Chicago is awesome.

MDKing
11-23-2010, 08:47 AM
As probably the only haunter here who actually grew up in "the ghetto" I think I can speak from a unique perspective.

I grew up in East Baltimore, some of you might know of it from the show "The Wire". The only thing harder than growing up black in the ghetto, is growing up white in it. I was often the only white kid in my class, and was usually the only white kid on my basketball teams, in which I proudly say that I always dominated on them.

From what I can see, St Louis is Mayberry compared to East Baltimore. Near the convention at least, everyone is very friendly and the streets are quiet I think St Louis is a great spot for the show.

For any of you who do wander in an adverse neighborhood it's nothing to be overly concerned about. Don't make yourself a target by appearing scared and out of place. Walk with purpose with your head up and walk with confidence as if you live their and you're used to it. If they sense fear they've got you. Don't be afraid to make eye contact but keep moving at a steady pace. Much of the time people are victimized because they make themselves a target. If you're a guy, if you seem self assured criminals might not be willing to take the chance on attacking and wait for someone they deem as easy prey.

I used to come home from playing ball at 1am and walk on my street and have to walk through as many as 50-70+ thugs hanging on my street since me neighbors had a couple teenage girls. Half of them would be in front of my house and sitting on my steps. I'll walk through them and say "alright guys off the steps and away from my house you can hang down there" pointing to the neighbors on the other side or whatever. They would move most of the time, I think they thought I was a cop since I looked out of place there. It didn't always go so smoothly, there is always one guy who wants to show off...

So don't worry where the show area is fine and if you're not familiar with your surroundings travel in groups and always pay attention to what's going on around you. From my experience, if you're on one side of the street and you see thugs crossing ahead of you for no reason, get ready lol!

Allan

Jim Warfield
11-23-2010, 09:03 AM
"What Cops Know" it advises that making eye-contact with Everyone you pass on the street will tell the potentual bad guys that you are either a cop or a crazy person, neither of which any self-respecting bad guy knows will result in more trouble than you might be worth.
I have always found it hysterical when city-people come out here and can be terrorized by a raccoon running infront of their car, since it's "So Dark" beside our country roads, it might have been an unearthly being!
Then that kid on the farmer's porch strumming the old banjo scares them too!
Even though he never mentions pigs or making them squeal like one!
Police response time here is usually measured in seconds not minutes. This is nice.
It's nice living 2 blocks from the county and city "Cop Shop".
Only one murder commited 28 yrs ago, the one before that was in 1940, at least those are the only ones we admit to.

drfrightner
11-23-2010, 03:35 PM
Its funny if you double click on that video that was put up you'll see other videos about East St. Louis and NORTH St. Louis... North St. Louis is the area where all the crime or most of it is at... NOT SOUTH St. Louis which is where downtown is or where most of the very expensive houses are...

South St. Louis is the GOOD PART... I would STRONGLY suggest that we do NOT move the convention to North St. Louis, and that you do NOT rent a hotel in NORTH St. Louis.

I think THIS video right here says all you need to know about East St. Louis... a rapper does a song called EAST STANK LOUIS! LOL

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Darkangel
11-23-2010, 04:15 PM
I'm sure St Louis doesn't stank as much as that song did!
DA

Mad Wax Sculptor
11-24-2010, 02:24 PM
Hey we got ghettos here in Dallas they just hide it behind the TX state fair grounds

drfrightner
11-24-2010, 10:56 PM
Just so everyone knows East St. Louis is NOT IN MISSOURI! LOL

That is ADAM land... I wonder if someone opens a haunt in East St. Louis would Adam visit this and rate it. I would dare him!

I can tell you there would be NO haunt scary... you can make some thing like if you make it out ALIVE you get your money back.

Then some guy makes it out of the haunt and lives, he goes to the ticket booth and says 'can I get my money back I made it out alive' and they manager says 'ah no I meant if you have to make it out of the East St. Louis alive to get your money back'. LOL

Larry

Darkangel
11-24-2010, 11:07 PM
Larry what Adam are you talking about? He runs a haunt there?

Jolly Pumpkin
11-25-2010, 12:22 AM
He's talking about Adam from Haunted Illinois.

Darkangel
11-26-2010, 09:52 AM
Oh, Ok, gotcha!

Thanks,
DA

chuck weber
11-27-2010, 04:22 PM
you know it's bad! be safe out there guys!!!!!!