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Raycliff Manor
03-19-2011, 09:44 AM
Hi all! Can anyone direct me to a good online article explaining the page options on Facebook and the use of the "Like" button? I've had several people contact me asking for my help with this and I have yet to find a good source that I can share and one that helps me to completely get my head wrapped aroung it.

I have a "Group" page "Fans of Raycliff Manor"
I have a Raycliff Manor Profile
I've also set up a business page for my newest (non haunt related) book

I know the "fan" option was replaced with "like". Again, if anyone can direct me to good article/s explaining the page differences and the benefits of each, I'd greatly appreciate it. I've searched the Internet and I'm finding a lot of outdated information. Please feel free to either share in a reply or email me at info(at)racyfliffmanor(dot)com. I'm sure there are others here who would be interested so posting is probably the best. ;) Thanks so much!

Kel

soulhasdied
03-19-2011, 12:54 PM
Did you try here??


http://www.facebook.com/help/

Raycliff Manor
03-19-2011, 01:02 PM
Yep, that's the first thing I tried and didn't find it very helpful.

Kel

MovieRelics
03-19-2011, 10:36 PM
Hey Kel,

Maybe I can help you out. What exactly are you wanting clarification on? Why some would want a Page vs a Group?

Tater
03-20-2011, 11:53 AM
Kel Buddy


As i figured this out....If you have a character DO NOT! make them a fan page...make them a profile page...that way you can interact with the people alot more and its 20x simpler.

Raycliff Manor
03-20-2011, 12:05 PM
Thanks guys! I'm really trying to better understand, and share, the various options and their individual benefits.

I know with a group, an advantage is that you can send a message to all members of the group. I also understand the groups do not have a "Like" button; however, you can invite people to join the group or they can visit the page and click the "join" button. Others, once they are a member, can also invite their friends to join your group.

I also understand the business pages have the "Like" button and you can encourage people to "like" the page. There is also the added benefit of being able to purchase ads to promote the business page.

I also understand that a profile allows you to invite people to be your friend, or they can visit your profile and click the "Add as Friend" button to become your friend.

What I'm trying to better understand is which have limits: I've heard of a 5,000 limit, but I'm not sure if this is for a group or profile or something else???

I'm also trying to better understand if there are other page types, or if the "Like" button be added to page types other than business pages... and ... I'm interested in learning what the pros and cons are for each type and what people's experiences have been in any or all of the above.

I know there are those who are utilizing the apps in Facebook to promote through their websites. Is this done through a particular page type? Any and all insights and feedback are appreciated!:D

Kel

P.S. Charles, I'm definitely going to be connecting with you to discuss your Haunt Apps services!

Raycliff Manor
03-20-2011, 12:49 PM
Hi again all! I just finally found a VERY Helpful article on Facebook. Here you go...

http://www.squidoo.com/facebookpage

Kel

Raycliff Manor
03-20-2011, 01:33 PM
Another point of interest...

It appears to me that you can link a page to Twitter so that your Facebook updates auto-populate Tweets. However, you cannot link a profile to Twitter, unless I'm mistaken and, if so, please correct me and provide the steps to do so. Thanks again and I hope this shared research is helping others.

Kel

bodybagging
03-20-2011, 03:09 PM
Great link Kelly!

MovieRelics
03-20-2011, 03:12 PM
I run several pages for various projects of mine and for my clients. With "Pages", you don't have a limit on the number of people that can follow up. With a "Profile", you can only have 5,000 friends. They assume if you have more than that, then your a celeb and need to be a "Page". Also, with a "Page" you can send a mass email to all your Fans if you have an update for them. Also, with a "Page", the wall updates also provide you with some impression information, so you'll know how many people are really seeing your updates. Plus, they also provide more statistical info so you know what your fan retention is and how active people are with your content. You wont get that with a "Profile" and I don't think you get that with a group. Plus, another benifits of having your site as a "Page" is that you can add FBML markup to it. You can add some seriously cool stuff to your page for visitors. Just something for you to consider.

Raycliff Manor
03-20-2011, 03:36 PM
Thanks BB, it took a lot of data mining for me to finally find that link! LOL Thanks for the insights Charles! So, is it possible to convert a profile to a business page? Our Raycliff Manor profile is nearing the 5,000 limit. Talk to you soon my friend!

Kel

MovieRelics
03-21-2011, 01:42 PM
As a matter of fact, yes you can. Visit http://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php?migrate and your profile will be upgraded to a Page based on your need.

Raycliff Manor
03-22-2011, 04:49 AM
Thanks Charles and Nick! I have one more question regarding upgrading the profile to a page. Will I lose all the "Friends" in the upgrade? Is there a way to bring them over as fans? Thanks again for all the insights and assistance!

Kel

Raycliff Manor
03-22-2011, 05:53 PM
Yikes, I just migrated the profile to a business page and I lost all my previous posts, uploaded videos and pictures and the private Fright Team group I had created. I'm just sharing this in case anyone else is thinking about migrating their profile to a page. You might want to be aware of this. The good news is that the friends of the profile did convert over to people who "like" the page. :)

Kel

Raycliff Manor
03-23-2011, 09:12 AM
I'm back with another question. I don't see birthday announcements since migrating the Raycliff Manor profile to a page. Is it still possible to view the daily birthdays? The only info I've been able to find regarding this is related to a profile and not a page. Thanks again for all the assistance!

Kel

MovieRelics
03-23-2011, 03:45 PM
I don't think that your going to be able to do that. Facebook views Pages as for a business, so they wouldn't think that birthday information would be necessary. In order to do that, you would need to track that thru your personal profile.

Raycliff Manor
03-23-2011, 03:47 PM
Another request for insights or help...

Since I used the facebook feature which lets you migrate from a personal profile to a fan page. now, every time a photo gets commented, I get an email with a notification and a link to see the comment. But when I click it, I'm being redirected Basic Information tab in "Edit Info", and so I don't know what was commented.

I'm being redirected to the same Basic Information tab when I log in or click on the Facebook logo as well. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this and how to fix it? Thanks again!

Kel

MovieRelics
03-23-2011, 03:54 PM
Do you have Facebook set to "Use Page as Facebook"? That may be what's causing the redirect.... Without looking at the profile and seeing what's happening, I'm not sure what's going on...

Raycliff Manor
03-23-2011, 04:10 PM
At the top right corner of the page the options are Settings and Logout, with no drop down options. Whereas on a profile I had the options, Home, Profile and Account. I was able to click on Account and choose "use page as..." I suspect that because the profile was migrated to a page, there is now no option to switch back and forth. I went ahead and added another profile as Admin for the page and when I logged into that profile I was able to switch back and forth between the two. I still don't see the birthdays for the Raycliff Manor fans and I still haven't been able to locate and access the Fright Team private group I created under the Raycliff Manor profile. I hope I'm making senst. LOL

Thanks so much for your interest in helping Charles. I'm glad that I'm at least no longer worried about having the Raycliff Manor Facebook profile deleted now that it's a page. :)

Kel

Raycliff Manor
03-23-2011, 04:25 PM
Just another update that might help others...

I wasn't able to link the Raycliff Manor page to Twitter because when I would try, I would just get automatically redirected back to the Basic Information page/tab. When I logged into the other profile, which I had now made an additional admin of the Raycliff Manor page, I was able to switch to using Raycliff Manor as a page and then I successfully linked the page to Twitter. So to clarify, I wasn't logged in to the Raycliff Manor business page, but logged into another profile that was added as an admin of the Raycliff Manor page. I hope this is helpful to some. It's been very frustrating trying to figure this out and I'd like to think I can save someone else the time and trouble! ;)

Kel

MovieRelics
03-23-2011, 05:17 PM
Yeah, getting twitter and a facebook page to play nice is one of those things that just doesn't happen. You will have to use a third party plugin to get your Twitter feed listed, but they won't show on the wall. They will be a button off to the side in the menu area. Just one of those things that they haven't gotten around to integrating yet.