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thrilltainment
06-24-2011, 03:40 PM
can anyone make this? it's using steam and lighting

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Darkblood
06-24-2011, 03:49 PM
Wow...

Incredible...

Any thoughts on how to replicate that?

thrilltainment
06-24-2011, 04:15 PM
Wow...

Incredible...

Any thoughts on how to replicate that?

my best guess: gotta get a good steam source first --- and then maybe narrow angled LEDs pointing at different parts of the steam.

zombietoxin
06-24-2011, 04:46 PM
I chased the info down on it one time but have forgotten most of the exact equipment info. Not for sure about the equipment in that video, but it looks identical to one that uses commercial humidifiers. Think REALLY big humidifiers for nurseries and green houses. The rest is just LED lighting. I was watching a large commerial steam/humidifier unit on ebay for a while- they wanted around $400 for $2500 unit. Great price, but since it was used I let it pass and dropped the whole thing for the time being.

You have to wonder about how much space you really should have in order to avoid a moisture issue when running a big humidifier like that...

spong8
06-24-2011, 05:25 PM
I wonder if you could replicate this with a slightly watered down, fast dissipating fog fluid, a fan and some black tubing. Of course you'd also need lighting because it just looks like a vapor being pushed through either a slit or honeycomb with orange lighting projected at an angle. Yeah I am cheap, but hey if you can make this work, I'm sure it would cost less then buying a theatrical unit.

FablesStudios
06-25-2011, 08:05 AM
http://www.danielswoodland.com/video/DWL_player.php?/videos/_Theming/Real_Fake_Fire.flv

This company does it too..

It kinda shows how its done..

drfrightner
06-25-2011, 09:04 AM
Let me chime in for a second... first off that Technifex company is outrageous expensive everything they do is tens of thousands. I'd love to find out how much they cost because its very cool. Now hear comes the soap box... at this years show we saw more of the exact same thing over and over again. Another zombie, another fog machine, another animation just different skin, this kind of stuff here is what we need at the show.

We need new blood, we need new direction, we simply need new and different types of FX offered to us. I'm NOT saying we still don't need zombies or animations however we need everything to notch up... if someone came to the show with something like this I can only imagine how many haunts would want this. Who wouldn't right... I'm happy to see all new mask companies. That is what the industry needed... now we need more companies willing to make costumes and we'll be right on target.

We also need to push the envelope on FX that you can install in your haunted house to bring more HOLLYWOOD to the haunt industry.

If we are going to push our haunts to new FRIGHTS we need new products from companies that are willing to THINK OUTSIDE the box.

If we ever buy another off the shelf animation it better be super cool thats all I can say... we are looking in other directions going forward and something like this is perfect!!! I would buy this in a New York Minute!!!!!!!!!!!

Larry

Mad Wax Sculptor
06-25-2011, 02:27 PM
I would assume its not steam as hes putting his hand it in and not being burned. I would say its a high pressure water mister fogger and led lighting maybe even add a dmx controller if you wanted to add a flicker or pulse between red and yellow . It is very imressive indeed

jakprintsHAUNT
06-26-2011, 02:05 PM
This does look amazing. I think a fast dissipating fog would probably be the best way to make it realistic and practical. If it were steam or mist you would have major water or humidity problems after not too long.

I will somewhat agree with Larry too, would love to see some new innovation. Just on going through haunt tours recently...seen a lot of repeats of the same stuff, which yes they are things that work, but gets old when the 5th haunt in a row has a Claustrophia or Vortex. They have become new staple classics, and they are great, but would love to see something new and innovative. I think with CGI taking over more and more of the film industry it is making way for more hollywood artists to break into our industry. Perfect example is Robert Kurtzman and Creature Corps. Looking very forward to what the future holds.

Mike "Pogo" Hach

bhays
06-26-2011, 02:13 PM
Froggy's has a fluid called quik blast. I bought a case at MHC for our haunt, haven't had a chance to play with it yet, but could be the ticket.

thrilltainment
06-27-2011, 12:47 PM
Technifex is right down the street from us and I had the honor of getting a tour of their facilities. The owners of the company are former Disney Imagineers. Awesome work they do --- they build some pretty amazing fire and water special effects. Maybe they'd be interested in trying the haunt industry if they can price their products right.


Let me chime in for a second... first off that Technifex company is outrageous expensive everything they do is tens of thousands. I'd love to find out how much they cost because its very cool. Now hear comes the soap box... at this years show we saw more of the exact same thing over and over again. Another zombie, another fog machine, another animation just different skin, this kind of stuff here is what we need at the show.

We need new blood, we need new direction, we simply need new and different types of FX offered to us. I'm NOT saying we still don't need zombies or animations however we need everything to notch up... if someone came to the show with something like this I can only imagine how many haunts would want this. Who wouldn't right... I'm happy to see all new mask companies. That is what the industry needed... now we need more companies willing to make costumes and we'll be right on target.

We also need to push the envelope on FX that you can install in your haunted house to bring more HOLLYWOOD to the haunt industry.

If we are going to push our haunts to new FRIGHTS we need new products from companies that are willing to THINK OUTSIDE the box.

If we ever buy another off the shelf animation it better be super cool thats all I can say... we are looking in other directions going forward and something like this is perfect!!! I would buy this in a New York Minute!!!!!!!!!!!

Larry

PUREEVIL
06-28-2011, 05:59 AM
looks like co2

Haunted Prints (EOM)
06-28-2011, 09:12 AM
That is awesome. Can you imagine a room where the wall behind you push's you towards and thru the fake fire. People would be freaking out.

Mr Nightmarez
06-28-2011, 09:26 AM
Water vapors possibly or misters w/ lighting. I could see where a fast dissipating fog or water vapors w/ the lighting could give this affect.

Definitely the way to go. We are doing fire this year and I will play with some of these... Excellent find - too bad they don't have a "Haunter's Budget" unit!

spong8
06-28-2011, 10:00 AM
Could anyone say flame thrower?

Haunted Prints (EOM)
06-28-2011, 12:35 PM
Video from you tube. Fire effect using a hazer, foam pipe insulation for a slow seep, and strips of red LEDs. It's just a hazer or a fog machine with a fan, pulsed through a pipe and cleverly lit.


http://hauntedprints.com/blog.php

drfrightner
06-28-2011, 01:22 PM
They want $4000 per foot and it runs off steam, and you have to buy on your own some sort of steam boiler or something. That is crazy.

It can be done cheaper I'm sure.

Larry

spong8
06-28-2011, 07:02 PM
Yeah it can be done cheaper. People on the home haunter forums already have prototypes going up that uses a standard steam cleaner. I've also seen a haunter do it using foam tubing, Red LED lights and a hazer and fog machine. It looks great! If it is going to be an atmosphere effect, it doesn't have to be perfect, but if it gets the point across (something is on fire) then I feel it is a winner winner chicken dinner.

iamscared2009
06-28-2011, 08:51 PM
it will not work as well with fog, the light will not pass through as easy as steam or water vaper.... we just brought on a guy to our team from disney... we talked about this today... they use a special tip that has a small ruby it,( yes not shit a ruby) to make the water vaper really fine and spray out... we will be working on a 1,000 model and a 2,000 model with the same effect as the fire. we will have ready for transworld. along with some new ghost projections we are filming now.

our guy as done a lot of work in this area with disney and universal studios

www.juneaustudios.com

j

spong8
06-29-2011, 02:28 PM
Glad to see that it may be a new tech at Transworld.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bMpLOV0BhY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4gJLir1LvI&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAkdfTT9FqU

Some food for thought.

damon carson
06-29-2011, 10:55 PM
That fire effect is amazing. Is that one part in the video with the round rain or water falling an effect they produce also? Just wondering. Or is that an actual waterfall? Never seen anything like that.
Damon
Frightmaster

jack
07-03-2011, 04:35 PM
"Room temperature fire?! What's the point, man?" --The Tick

Couldn't resist.

thrilltainment
07-04-2011, 05:41 PM
That fire effect is amazing. Is that one part in the video with the round rain or water falling an effect they produce also? Just wondering. Or is that an actual waterfall? Never seen anything like that.
Damon
Frightmaster


Technifex specializes in all sorts of special effects and do mostly custom work. Water and fire are their specialties --- they even hold patents on some of their contraptions.

ShatteredFX
07-17-2011, 11:24 AM
Working on one of these at this very moment. Tried a few different methods, but finally settled with it running on water. Can be programed however you like or constantly running. One problem we ran into is it needs to be run in a fairly dim/dark area. With all the lighting effects its hard to see with the lights on. Also using the same "technology" to make other flame/fire products. Probably going to run about $799-$999 depending on what model, we'll have a few to choose from.