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dshaunt
08-04-2011, 03:25 PM
Looking to have a small plexiglass bridge with rats beneath peoples feet. I saw something similar done with real rats years ago. Does anyone know the liability issues or problems this could cause other than feeding and care. I would like to use fake one and put them on a movement system but cant find realistic looking rats in bulk. Not trying to pay $8 a piece.

terrormasue
08-04-2011, 03:41 PM
I have seen it where they have the area large enough to put a person in laying on their back screaming and kicking to get out. A real great scare. I love it. More effective than a few rats running around. You might hear from PETA Ha! but they would not give a care about a human laying underneath a piece of plexiglass. It was a good scare.

Sue

hauntedkimmy
08-04-2011, 04:06 PM
I was in a haunt once that had a table set up to look like a wedding table with rotting cake and bride and groom skeletons. It was plexiglassed in and they had a few real rats running around as well as a few fake ones. It was incredibly cool!!!!

I think as long as they were from a pet store and kept humanely caged in whatever, you should be fine. It wouldn't seem to me to be any different from looking at rats in a museum/zoo that way.

Mad Wax Sculptor
08-04-2011, 04:12 PM
FYI Rats stink !!! I love the little buggers but they stink. The effect would be better to use fake rats on the floor and live ones crawling around on corpses behind plexi in the walls. Rats in the walls may be easier to take care of and feed

damon carson
08-04-2011, 04:15 PM
How bout making a video of rats running around. I think you could go to a local pet store. Talk to the owner. Film them in whatever background you want. That your customer would be looking down at. There you go! No feeding no mess no peta. Just mount tv under bridge use plexiglass to protect it.
Damon
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Badger
08-04-2011, 04:17 PM
I used to work with an actor who had trained rats that would cling to her body while she walked around. Occasionally she would go to the cemetery where another girl would lie in a coffin and she would let the rats crawl over her while she put cheerios and jello around the body. It really creeped a lot of people out.

I know one haunt that kept rats under plexiglass and had little trouble with the local PETA chapter. Those rats were traeted better than a lot of the actors..

jakprintsHAUNT
08-04-2011, 04:47 PM
As long as the plexi was safety thick, there would be no problem having live ones underneath as long as you took care of them, you could build a cage that can be accessed from the side and just have the clear top in which the customers would walk or crawl on. As long as it wasnt too cold for them in the enviroment I dont see PETA having an issue as long as they were fed and taken care of. They might incur a bit of stress from people screaming...but again if its thick plexi it shouldnt be much of an issue either.

Mike "Pogo" Hach

terrormasue
08-04-2011, 05:13 PM
I was actually kidding about PETA..........LOL!

OblivionHauntedHouse
08-04-2011, 05:33 PM
Damons idea is awesome! Super easy!

Allen H
08-04-2011, 07:02 PM
DS, do you have time to make your rats if I did a tutorial? I make a mean looking fake rat. Cheap and easy to.
Allen H

dshaunt
08-04-2011, 08:05 PM
DS, do you have time to make your rats if I did a tutorial? I make a mean looking fake rat. Cheap and easy to.
Allen H

Yes I would love to see that!

hauntedkimmy
08-04-2011, 08:28 PM
Damon is on to something!! What about filiming the rats and using a projector? Here's a youtube link that features spiders and snakes in that manner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taZdCwGtHws

DDJR
08-04-2011, 08:32 PM
I done this for the last 3 years yes it is a good scare. the actual box we use is about 36'' by 96" we use either half inch plex or 5/8 we had to use 1/4 inch by 1" steel braces to re-enforce the plex from bowing. We use approx 20 to 25 rats per session the only problem we have incountered are the rats terrible actors. while we are preparing to open the little buggers run around like crazy but once we open up they go to sleep. duriing the day we keep a light on them in order to make them sleep becase the are naucternal. we put black lights in the box it makes them look creeper this is a great effect. By the way it may sound crual but feed them dog food its cheeap and it good for them. if you want pics of what we have done i will try to dig some up Happy haunting.....

Marr Branch
08-04-2011, 08:49 PM
I'm thinking about putting anyone in PETA under plexiglass with steaks,ribs,and bacon, for my patrons to walk over.

damon carson
08-04-2011, 08:54 PM
How bout making a video of rats running around. I think you could go to a local pet store. Talk to the owner. Film them in whatever background you want. That your customer would be looking down at. There you go! No feeding no mess no peta. Just mount tv under bridge use plexiglass to protect it.
Damon
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Wellinton
08-04-2011, 09:05 PM
We used black gerbils our first year in the haunt. They were great! Last year our Insurance company asked if we planned to have any live animals. I said no and we put all our ideas with live critters to rest.
I would love to see a fake rat tutorial!!

damon carson
08-05-2011, 12:01 AM
Ya Kim I had forgot about these videos you can get. Thanks for posting that. I know that damn snake would freak me the hell out! LOL! I hate snakes! But it might be a tight space to project unless its done from the top and shot down below. But it would still be cool either way to project or flatscreen tv. I think if filmed right w the proper lighting it would look pretty realistic. I dont think i would want jello running down me with real rats crawling around on me. There is a guy who works the queline at The Edge of Hell in K.C who uses a real rat. He puts it in his mouth and spits him out and catches him all kinds of stuff. We have pet the rat before he is nice. Alot of rats are really gentle I assume. I dont see fake rats haveing the same effect. You could use a few like here and there to make people believe there real. Also I dont know how my post popped up twice but its there. Ha!
Damon
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Mad Wax Sculptor
08-05-2011, 12:03 AM
I Hate to see how much dryer lint it takes to make a big mean ass rat

damon carson
08-05-2011, 01:18 AM
It could be belly button lint? LOL!
Damon
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dshaunt
08-05-2011, 08:17 AM
I done this for the last 3 years yes it is a good scare. the actual box we use is about 36'' by 96" we use either half inch plex or 5/8 we had to use 1/4 inch by 1" steel braces to re-enforce the plex from bowing. We use approx 20 to 25 rats per session the only problem we have incountered are the rats terrible actors. while we are preparing to open the little buggers run around like crazy but once we open up they go to sleep. duriing the day we keep a light on them in order to make them sleep becase the are naucternal. we put black lights in the box it makes them look creeper this is a great effect. By the way it may sound crual but feed them dog food its cheeap and it good for them. if you want pics of what we have done i will try to dig some up Happy haunting.....

If you could find the pics and post them here that would be great!

hauntedkimmy
08-05-2011, 08:50 AM
Wait, dryer lint rats?!?! What did I miss, LOL!?

Mad Wax Sculptor
08-05-2011, 10:27 AM
sorry Kimmy its kinda an inside joke Allen makes a cool mouse from dryer lint

Wellinton
08-05-2011, 12:41 PM
I knew I was saving a bag of dryer lint for something wonderful!!!
Now what?? How do I make a dirty little mouse with dryer lint??

terrormasue
08-05-2011, 09:57 PM
My dryer lint went into a jar marked Wherewolf hair........crap I wonder if I can get that back......I do have a lot of socks that need to be washed and dried!!!

Sue

terrormasue
08-05-2011, 10:03 PM
Oh yes Allen can make anything out of anything. He is the most talented man I have ever met. He can make a full blown animatronic angel monument from duct tape and baling wire. He never ceases to amaze me with his talent and vision. We are showing all of his DVD's to our crew this year. His acting DVD's are awesome not to mention his airbrush DVD's. We will have him out to our haunt to train mid season in 2012 for sure. So if says he can make a rat out of lint, I would believe him....

Sue

X-Treme Torment
08-05-2011, 11:16 PM
I actually bought a dvd at transworld this year that u can project on the floor or just use a flat screen TV and it looks like the rats are really crawling all around the floor. (Itís pretty realistic and looks really amazing)

hauntedkimmy
08-06-2011, 06:26 AM
Allen is for certain the MacGyver of the hauntworld! :) I LOVE that...I work on such a tight budget, so his ideas are perfect for me!!! Not to mention they are just plain AWESOME! I've got dryer lint I so can use to make rats, LOL!!! I also have the furriest dog on the east coast willling to get a good brushing, LOL!!! If I can put THAT fur to good use.......heehee! :)

Haunted Prints (EOM)
08-06-2011, 09:34 PM
Real, no wait fake, no no no, real.

X-Treme Torment
08-09-2011, 01:26 PM
Here is a link for the video i bought/ projectors i have and ill some how link a design so you can see what we did with this effect.

This is the video i bought at transworld

http://www.hauntedprops.com/product-p/creepy%20crawler%20illusion%20dvd.htm


And here is an example of a different dvd effect but shows you what it looks like when projected on the floor and in the middle of it it shows some mounting procedures.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnDA64insAw

this is a really cheap projector that works really well with these effects ( but you cant project on a surface bigger than 12 feet wide / 12 feet tall due to the lumen ration on the small projector)

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=cheap+projectors+for+sale&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1024&bih=518&wrapid=tlif131291212485910&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=16733209430717512325&sa=X&ei=NnNBTq68C-OHsgLMmr3aCQ&ved=0CGwQ8gIwAA#