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drfrightner
04-03-2012, 10:43 PM
I'll have to be honest this new timeline for facebook has made me all but ignore facebook. I'm not even using it anyone because now I think facebook is as cluttered up as myspace. Its horrid! I personally think it will hurt the value of facebook to your business because people can't really find the info as easy the new info and the site is so messy it just gives you a headache to look at it.

Who agrees.

Larry

Valley_of_Screams
04-03-2012, 11:10 PM
I'll have to completely disagree. I think it's sleek...allowing a larger graphic area at the top of each page. Also, it sorts the crap out of each page and the first thing people see are YOUR own posts. Doesn't matter if you like it or not...your customers still use Facebook everyday and to not use it simply because you don't like a new layout is absurd. Facebook will always change...about once a year or so. We just have to get used to this fact and keep evolving with Facebook. -Tyler

graystone
04-04-2012, 05:39 AM
i hate, hate, hate it!!!!!!!!! Shane and it's I think it sucks! Shane

Badger
04-04-2012, 06:36 AM
While not a fan of the new look, I have to admit this is probably going to happen...

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Deathwing
04-04-2012, 07:02 AM
Doesn't matter anyway eventually Facebook will die off just as MySpace did when something else better comes alond and people will be saying the same thing, "damn I wasted a lot of time building up friends and now it's useless".

Jake

Frightener
04-04-2012, 07:17 AM
Badger you are completely right!

Things will always change. Nothing stays the same. Everyone said Yahoo would fail and die off as soon as they started making their huge changes all the time. It's still #1. Sure, there are other giants coming up in the webworld, but Yahoo remains #1.

I sorta like it, but I HATE being FORCED to do it! The one thing I do like, is being able to put a nice banner at the top.
I also hated it when I first saw it. People don't like change. But change CAN be good for us. Our human nature is "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" Well that and "this is the way we've always done it, leave it alone"

Well, the truth is, you can never improve without making changes! Our (human) nature likes things to stay the way we're use to. That's fine, but even evolution proves that everything changes. Facebook is evolving, sure not for the best but I can understand why, I guess.

HauntedPaws
04-04-2012, 07:17 AM
I'll have to completely disagree. I think it's sleek...allowing a larger graphic area at the top of each page. Also, it sorts the crap out of each page and the first thing people see are YOUR own posts.

Sleek? It's full of crap and all over the place. What's worse is there are apps now which can post garbage on your profile without your permission just because you're friends with someone else who's using it.

Cliff
04-04-2012, 07:31 AM
Sleek? It's full of crap and all over the place. What's worse is there are apps now which can post garbage on your profile without your permission just because you're friends with someone else who's using it.

....so can i post my stuff on there pages:) i kinda like that!

Dark Scares
04-04-2012, 09:52 AM
I switched my personal page over a couple months ago and I think it is OK, I have gotten used to it. That being said... I think it sucks for a business page. I think info is very hard to find and I yeah I think people will just say forget this. Sometimes pretty isn't always better.

FablesStudios
04-04-2012, 11:17 AM
I will not set mine up with that timeline stuff. WIll not!! Twitter will be the new facebook if they keep this up, just like facebook was the new myspace.
My 2cents..
Peter T
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UnDeRTaKer313
04-04-2012, 01:10 PM
Adapt or Die...

Facebook is not the NEW myspace.

Myspace was a social network with no website integration or application development opportunities.

Facebook is attempting to be the base network so that applications such as Spotify can exist.

Twitter is not trying to be the NEW facebook either.
They both have their place on the web.

We all hate change, but at the same time facebook isn't going anywhere anytime soon as it is embedded in everything we do on the web.

Darkangel
04-04-2012, 02:11 PM
[QUOTE
We all hate change, but at the same time facebook isn't going anywhere anytime soon as it is embedded in everything we do on the web.[/QUOTE]

So was MySpace 5 years ago before it was replaced by Facebook.

DA

Frightener
04-04-2012, 02:54 PM
Well he's kinda right though DA. 5 years ago, Myspace wasn't EVERYWHERE. Now days, You can't go to hardly 90% of websites w/o there being a facebook like button. Facebook is on buildings, coffee shop advertisements, you name it. Local businesses have the symbolic "f" with "like us" on it. Myspace had none of this.

Facebook, unfortunately is a much bigger deal than MS was. However, even at the time, I hated to go to FB, but myspace was pretty cluttered.

I feel FB will be around for a much longer time than MS would've ever dreamed about.

Darkangel
04-04-2012, 04:25 PM
MySpace was huge so big in fact that some companies and even movies released their promos on a MySpace page instead of a traditional website, so it was everywhere. Facebook is bigger in large part because of the popularity of MySpace. Facebook built itself of the growing trend of social networking and improved on MySpace's flaws and the combination of these and other factors it just took off. But people are resistant to change once they feel comfortable with it.


DA

UnDeRTaKer313
04-04-2012, 07:30 PM
DA very little of that is true.

http://www.myspace.com/

You can log into myspace now using the Facebook Connect Application.
Facebook is trying to be the social human directory and connection for the internet. They are not trying to make a website and make money from it soley which is what myspace did.

We are looking at a time when the only way to sign up for some websites and interact with comments on websites is by having a facebook account.
They created social plug-ins that allow me to instantly have a membership site for my users without asking them to fill out another form on my site. They are the end all be all for logging in and connecting with internets and other websites.

Let me put it this way.

If myspace shut down even at its peak, people would just be upset, it wouldn't effect anything, it was simply a website.
If facebook shuts down tomorrow, entire websites, applications, blogs, and companies would tank because it is such a powerful tool fully integrated into websites.

Its a no brainer in business that every product has a Life Cycle, however when that product becomes so entangled in our daily activies, we are more apt to allow changes to it. They have gone years without any major changes and now they need to change over to timeline in order for the new applications "actions" to work to their potential.

The facebook timeline is not getting cluttered it is expanding and in a lot of ways is much cleaner, it is just different so it feels more complex.

HordeOfUndead
04-04-2012, 07:37 PM
I don't mind it, couldn't stand it at first.

The only thing I really like about timeline is how you can have an additional cover picture to basically add something else of high interest to you besides a profile pic.

But as some have said already it is way too cluttered and unorganized looking. I still don't get the logic as to how the page is organized on my personal profile of our haunted house page. :confused:

They (Facebook) should have definitely made that an OPTION for those who liked the timeline layout better. We switched our haunt page over way before the "mandatory" day.

If enough people keep whining about it they may switch it back. Why can't they just leave well enough alone? lol.

UnDeRTaKer313
04-04-2012, 07:37 PM
But people are resistant to change once they feel comfortable with it.
DA

Its called sensory adaptation. People can't help but use facebook so they are forced to adapt to the changes. Wether we like them or not is really irrelevent because we won't notice them in 3 weeks.

http://www.alleydog.com/glossary/definition.php?term=Sensory%20Adaptation

Dark Scares
04-04-2012, 11:41 PM
I have no doubt people will adjust, but I think the original question was basically Do you like it?...People will always adjust eventually but that doesn't mean it is a better thing.

UnDeRTaKer313
04-05-2012, 06:46 AM
it is better for reasons that it has opened up the ability for application "actions"
from what i have read, this change was required before they could fully integrate such things as "nick is 'listening' to 'song x' on spotify"

the concept now is taking that technology and creating applications for your own haunt website.

The ability to have your social graph automatically fill when you go and read and article or listen to a song is incredibly powerful.
I am gonna make a video soon and put in on my site that shows the new crazy viral marketing options that you can do using this.

drfrightner
04-05-2012, 01:41 PM
No it is NOT better... PERIOD! It is one big giant cluttered mess by anyones standards. It really sucks end of story. Its hard to follow, before it was easy the latest thing you want someone to know they know that is what they see. You had a little TOC on the side and that was easy... photos, about, whatever. Now you can't find nothing and there are posts all over the page. You could a timeline easy enough but simply having the months along the side click and it changes what you look at.

Its horrible.

And if you ask me potential customers will now shy away from following you what you post and just focus on their own page.

Larry

HauntedPaws
04-05-2012, 02:38 PM
Why do they think you want a timeline of your FB life anyway? I don't care much about Mafia Wars, 20 questions nor Castleville requests last year let alone 5yrs ago.

screamforadream
04-05-2012, 04:07 PM
I absolutely cannot stand it, I've yet to change my own profile over lol.

However, just because I think it's a total clusterf**k, doesn't mean I don't see the potential that Nick is trying to point out. Yes, it allows for MORE and makes accessing your customers EASIER, but it's such an eyesore and drastic/confusing change that it makes understanding those advantages a thousand times harder.

I think this thread wouldn't exist if Facebook did slower changes over time, as opposed to one giant overhaul all at once. I.E- cover photo, then change the locations of the "about me, photos, friends" etc buttons, then converting to the timeline style wall. But doing everything at once was just a giant mistake in my eyes, I am holding off on switching to timeline until they do it for me haha, it's such a pain, but I do see why they did some of the things they did, I just think they went about it wrong.

UnDeRTaKer313
04-05-2012, 04:39 PM
No it is NOT better... PERIOD! It is one big giant cluttered mess by anyones standards. It really sucks end of story.

Larry why did you make this thread and ask for our opinion if your gonna be that close minded. Come on dude..

The guys that design the facebook layouts are masters of Neuromarketing, they know what they are doing, its honestly not that big of a change at all.

Your sidebar menu is at the top above the "fold" which is ideal.
You can have a full width huge image at the top.
You can post huge images that take up the whole width of the news feed area.
You can delete posts that you believe are cluttering it.
Full page applications so your users don't get distracted.

I guess the real question is why complain that a service that is FREE and bringing you customers is a little harder to use.?

HauntedPaws
04-05-2012, 05:17 PM
Facebook fails to realize I offer content for free. As for neuro-marketing masters, it's more like moron marketing masters. To them your just a number with data they sell to companies. It's disturbing they literally track every word you've written to assume they can find out what you're gonna buy.

drfrightner
04-05-2012, 07:25 PM
I'm open to your opinion wide open... however you are one of the guys trying to make money helping people with facebook so I expect you to be positive.

Hey I like two sides... I read your side, and I don't agree because the new layout just sucks.

It is better simple and easy. When are you trying to use facebook to promote your business or keep your customers updated you need simple and easy to find info not clutter from 4 months ago. That is old news... who cares about 4 months ago I only care about today.

Larry

graystone
04-05-2012, 08:13 PM
I'm open to your opinion wide open... however you are one of the guys trying to make money helping people with facebook so I expect you to be positive.

Hey I like two sides... I read your side, and I don't agree because the new layout just sucks.

It is better simple and easy. When are you trying to use facebook to promote your business or keep your customers updated you need simple and easy to find info not clutter from 4 months ago. That is old news... who cares about 4 months ago I only care about today.

Larry

I just told someone today that very same thing! Shane and I agree it just plain Sucks! Shane

Scenic Art Productions
04-06-2012, 10:17 PM
Hello all,

Yes, it is way too cluttered. It also is not very user friendly. Some of my items fit perfectly in its place in the old layout. When they changed, nothing fit and some things dissapeared completely. I had my address, phone number, and email address on the main page, now it is gone. It should be in the blue rectangle on the left below the cover page. I have read through the "helpless" pages and there is nothing mentioned. I have deleted my contact info and redone it thinking it will reset but still no contact info. It is on the about page atleast. If any one knows how I would be thrilled to hear from you. Another issue is that with it being a timeline I have got to post things weather I want to or not. I may do a bunch of small projects that are not very exciting to mention for a month. Now, if I do not post anything it looks as if I am not doing anything all month. So I guess I will be posting vinyl signs, banners and odd shapes I cut out on the router table. Won't that be exciting to hear about. LOL :-). Well I guess I vented enough. I have not spoken to one person who likes it though.

Thank You,
Robert Travis
Scenic Art Productions
ScenicArtProductions@Yahoo.COM
http://www.facebook.com/scenicartproductions

Novus
04-07-2012, 07:55 AM
There has never been one Facebook update that was met with universal praise by it's users. Most came with pretty negative reactions... online petitions... ... anti-Facebook groups.... claims of "the end of Facebook".... etc. Then after a few weeks we all get used to it and moved on.

I hate feeling like I have to learn Facebook all over again, too... but, Facebook has always been ahead of the curve in social media and I'm trusting they got this update at least mostly right. It's already starting to grow on me.

UnDeRTaKer313
04-16-2012, 06:32 PM
I REST MY CASE!

Timeline has caused IHEARTRADIO application to expand 30 fold in the last month.
I am starting my blog now ONLY because of the facebook timeline i feel it will actually be worth it.

http://allfacebook.com/facebook-timeline-iheartradio_b86062?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+allfacebook+%28Facebook+Blog% 29
(http://allfacebook.com/facebook-timeline-iheartradio_b86062?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+allfacebook+%28Facebook+Blog% 29)

JamBam
04-17-2012, 12:43 PM
You will change when it is more painful to stay the same than it is to change.

People hate change, especially the Myers-Briggs J types. They are also master complainers and moaners about change. I am of that type.

Larry, you change your haunts more than anyone I know and it has been very successful for you. Most of the rest of us change our haunts to some degree as well. Our marketing changes. Our business model changes. The haunt web sites we all own change, but not nearly as often or probably needed. Hauntworld.com changes fairly often with some complaining as well.

While people hate change, many times they find later on that it was a good thing. Sometimes they still want the old way back.

The change to timeline is here and facebook only seems to react when their is personal info exposure issues or settings that cause headaches. They usually don't change the site though.

Google+ is out there, but I have only signed up and check it infrequently. The new site is still unborn. Larry, you have a lot of imagination in haunting and even web stuff. The opportunity is yours to try. If not, we still have you to ourselves. (does that sound too mushy?)

drfrightner
04-17-2012, 04:41 PM
Its not an issue of change its an issue of facebook was simple now its complicated. I think for promotional purposes it was better simple and easy not complicated and cluttered. Its not about being creative its about knowing what is better... and the new facebook sucks the big one.

I will say that I did add a new header which I had done pronto... check it out.

http://www.facebook.com/hauntworldscariesthauntedhousesattractions

I like the big wide art but I'd rather the smaller simple art as it was before with the central focus of the page the top new message nothing more and nothing less.

Larry