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Spoils
02-10-2013, 09:40 PM
I wanted to post this to let others know of the videos TopHam Terrors haunted house have up. They have stolen my video images along with Blood Manor. I do not know if they have any other haunts images on these. I know that they have copied Blood Manor's website that Rogues Hollow did for them.
Here is their video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BVQAuvzkA0

Spoils
02-10-2013, 09:41 PM
And another one....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkYxFAiwr4w

Spoils
02-10-2013, 09:42 PM
Here is our video to compare...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYCgyoJjq2U

piercemanor
02-10-2013, 10:31 PM
Did I see some video images from the Transworld Video in their commercial as well?

drfrightner
02-10-2013, 10:45 PM
Did you contact them... I would have already sent a nasty email!

Crooks!

Larry

Spoils
02-10-2013, 11:34 PM
oh yes...to them and webmaster /web designer

RoguesHollow
02-11-2013, 12:26 AM
Hey guys, thanks for the support here on Hauntworld. This has been playing out a bit on Facebook so yes the owner has been contacted by one of my clients that he stole from but he didn't get too far. He basically told my client that since he added a moon and some lighting that he now owns the image! What's scary is this is not the first time I've heard this type of reasoning. The video was basically downloaded then the "designer" I'm assuming at Darknet designs just slipped in a few clips from another haunted house and called it his own. At this point its more up to my clients that have been stolen from to go after this guy but I know a lot of people on facebook are giving not only the Topham haunt owner grief but also the so called designer that built the site and video. From what I know Lawyers will be getting involved soon so I'll be sure to post a reply when I hear more. I've posted about this in detail on my blog if anyone's interested in getting the full scoop: http://rogueshollow.com/blogs/

Chris

BrotherMysterio
02-11-2013, 03:38 AM
I wanted to post this to let others know of the videos TopHam Terrors haunted house have up. They have stolen my video images along with Blood Manor. I do not know if they have any other haunts images on these. I know that they have copied Blood Manor's website that Rogues Hollow did for them.
Here is their video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BVQAuvzkA0

This sh*thead is not just ripping off images . . . he's ripping off characters that are referenced in the images. You would assume, as a customer seeing the vid, that that character would be at the haunt. That's just a dick move on all levels.

C.

Deathwing
02-11-2013, 08:24 AM
Nice videos, after looking at their Facebook photos it's quite obvious it's not footage from their haunt since it looks like a pile of sh*t. Low life crooks is what they are.

I just listened to the big scary show and the guy in Canada wants American Haunters to reach out to them and help them evolve as we have. This is counter productive to that for sure.

Jake

Darksidestew
02-11-2013, 08:31 AM
The quality is not there. He is filming a computer screen of the video.
You can see the edges bounce around.

Its easy to get him booted from facebook and youtube

Stew

austind
02-11-2013, 09:24 AM
This is listed as a home haunt on the Canadian Haunters Association web site. Is this just a kid playing haunted house in his garage? Did not seem like he was a pro haunter and he did not think a back yard haunt commercial would get this much attention. If this is so then he needs to learn that you can't go out and steal what you want. I am a person that does not allow or own a bootleg DVD or CD. It's just the way I am and I make my son pay for his music too. Well I pay and he listens, but no down loaded stuff unless its paid for. I hope this is just some kid that made a mistake and now he should know better. The way the world is now you can get anything free on a torrent site and kids think that just the way it's done. Just think we used to get a friend LP and record it on our cassette deck to play in our cars, now you just down load it to your phone. And as a last thought, This is why they need input from the USA, to let them know what is proper and not, I see stuff that is original and cool at TW and then at MHC two other guys have almost the same thing, is this right or is it wrong of them. I deal a lot with Canada and find them to be more ethical to deal with than some of the guys here in Detroit.

Phatman

screamforadream
02-11-2013, 11:13 AM
Their website has been taken down.

This isn't something lawyers should be involved with, especially since it probably is just a technologically smart kid, but he'll get knocked down by his customers/visitors when they see this and realize that NONE of the quality stuff in the video is in his haunt. Let him dig his own grave, he'll learn the hard way on his own. Just get him kicked from Facebook and Youtube, the site is already down, I think this kid is realizing he has made a huge mistake, but don't kill him over it. I'd let it pass and see if he does anything stupid again before bringing out the pitchforks and torches.

Spoils
02-11-2013, 05:36 PM
We were contacted by the owner of TopHam Terrors. He told us it was Darknet Designs who did the video for him. So they (Darknet Designs) knew better.

austind
02-11-2013, 07:08 PM
I don't know who Darknet is and now don't want to. Bart you should check out the other web sites he has done to see if he is using your stuff on others. Darknet should know better and should be held accountable for using it.

Phatman

screamforadream
02-11-2013, 07:42 PM
Very true.....but who's DarkNet Designs?? I've never heard of them....have any of us heard of them? Is it their own sub-company??

deathstaste
02-11-2013, 09:47 PM
google darknet and look at the first few sites that pop up they have to do with illegal downloading hacking and child porn

BrotherMysterio
02-11-2013, 10:29 PM
google darknet and look at the first few sites that pop up they have to do with illegal downloading hacking and child porn

Holy crap! Not good.

Topham should also sue them for whatever they paid for that website, since it seems like Darknet threw them under the bus in this situation, especially since Topham is doing this home haunt for a major children's hospital. I don't think a guy looking to raise money for "sick kids" (the name of the hospital, as it happens), is looking to be a crook, con, or rip-off office.

C.

screamforadream
02-11-2013, 11:16 PM
Edit- they cleared their name :)

MovieRelics
02-11-2013, 11:18 PM
google darknet and look at the first few sites that pop up they have to do with illegal downloading hacking and child porn

Whooooaaa there..... Now before we start accusing someone of being associated with any kind of child porn or hacking, please be sure of what your saying first. The term "dark net" is an associated term by certain black hat hacking groups and law enforcement agencies to refer to private networks or torrent networks used by groups to transfer private files and content that is ment for a private group. It seems that this is just a business name that is associated with another terminology that can be used for illegal activities sometimes. So please don't jump to conclusions here and accusing someone of some seriosly illegal activites like child porn simply because of a blind google search.

I've never heard of this web designer before, but just doing a quick lookup seems that this person named Justin has been active on the hauntworld forums since 2008 as "hauntmisery". You can also find some post here talking about his services.

http://www.hauntworld.com/haunted_house_forums/showthread.php?9664-DarkNET-Designs-Last-Minute-Web-Design-Sale!

http://www.hauntworld.com/haunted_house_forums/showthread.php?6588-DarkNET-Designs-Haunted-Web-Design-Sale!

And here is another member recommending him - http://www.hauntworld.com/haunted_house_forums/showthread.php?6613-Darknet-Designs!

If this guy is stealing content and images from another designer and passing it off as his own work, and to top it off, reselling it to his clients, then:

1. He should be sued by the original designer for copyright infringement and the website that is currently using the design and work they paid for and hold the current copyrights.

2. He should be sued by the clients he sold that stolen work to for putting them in a actionable situation by the other haunt and misrepresenting himself to them as having the legal copyrights to the stolen work.

3. And everyone should know what kind of lazy ass thief they are for trying to rip off everyone if that's what really happened.

I seriously can't believe that people still think they won't get caught considering how small and tight a community the haunt industry is. They think they can make a quick buck and nobody will catch them in the act.

And a friendly reminder (because I'm tried of seeing this crap).... Unless you have attended law school, studied entertainment and/or copyright law in depth, are a practicing lawyer, or have consulted an attorney about any potential legal ramifications from using another persons art, assume you have no idea what the hell you are talking about and have no legal right to use another's work. STOP STEALING AND SELLING IT AS YOUR OWN WORK! You a thief and don't be surprised when you get sued, as you should!

MovieRelics
02-11-2013, 11:50 PM
This is a update from Rouges Hollow....


UPDATE 2/11/13
I spoke with the owner of Topham Terror who admitted that the designer of this website, DarkNET Designs had nothing to do with the artwork from Blood Manor. Topham now claims they purchased the artwork and video from someone on Hauntworld but can’t remember the name apparently. Yeah, right. So anyway I want to make it clear that DarkNET did not knowingly use the copyrighted artwork from Blood Manor.com.

So it looks like the DarkNet designer had nothing to do with the art theft, which is good for them and clears their name. It seems like we have a good old fashion case of a haunt owner trying to rip off video from one haunt and pass it off as their own. I remember that Scott from Scarehouse had a similar problem with another haunt trying to pass off a scarehouse video or clip of it as their own recently too.

PLEASE, STOP TRYING TO STEAL ONE HAUNTS VIDEOS / ARTWORK AS YOUR OWN. If you are not that creative to come up with your own unique characters and content without ripping off someone else, reconsider your current line of work.

Creepy Works
02-12-2013, 02:36 AM
Man... This kind of stuff pisses me off. Glad Darknet didn't have anything to do with it.

6-7 years ago I had a trademark in another business get infringed upon by a person registering the same name with a dash on ebay. They mistakenly thought that by adding a dash to it changed it up enough. This person sold similar but cheaper made parts which I started catching flack over. I bought a $6 part from this person and was able to request a phone number through ebay. This $6 part was also very close to one of my parts. I used this part as evidence of infringement to ebay. I called the sellers number a few times and finally a girl answered. Get this... This girl turns out to be a struggling law student. I told her she should know more about infringement than I do. Anyways I argued every point she had into the ground. She simply told me I was a mean person. She refused to change her name so I filed a dispute with ebay. Ebay didn't mess around. Gave her 5 days to change it. She didn't so ebay did it for her.


Fast forward to 2011. The guys in a neighboring haunt managed somehow to copy the layout and other features from both sides of my flyer. I know the guys at this haunt. It's like what were you thinking? Because of this incident I changed and trademarked my name to Creepy Works. Had Brainstorm come up with a nice logo and background. I spent a lot of time and money pushing paperwork and reorganizing things so this will not happen again. Now I am just waiting for some pecker head to come along and try to rip something off. All I got to say is I'm not going to be nice to the next guy whether I know them or not.

Spoils
02-12-2013, 07:46 AM
This is the 3rd time this has happened to us on the same video. It's down now and I know the artwork that Rogues Hollow created is down too. They are blaming each other, but they got caught and it is down. All that matters.

Darkangel
02-12-2013, 07:50 AM
It seems like as an industry of supposed creative professionals, there seems to be lack of each. People lack creativity and just copy everyone else or rip their ideas and pretend they came up with it.
I'm glad you found out about this creep.

DA

austind
02-12-2013, 09:11 AM
Bart I like your clown too, I think I will copy your video. You don't mind do you everyone else seem to be using it. Just kidding, I will say this, you do some nice videos and I see why somebody wants to use them. But I know all you Texans have guns so I'm not going to piss you off. Like I said before I hope that this stuff will stop and the only way to do that is to be aggressive toward those who do it. If Darknet did not have anything to do with it, then I hope that this sets the tone for all web designers to make sure thier clients have rights for the content they send in. One thing you can do is a watermark on your video, I notice that Ben Armstong put a watermark on everything he post on HW.

Phatman

BigT
02-21-2013, 06:55 PM
My other career (yes, some of us have day jobs that take us down different paths) I have the good fortune to have published 5 books, all published through McGraw-Hill. These books (all technical by the way) sell all over the world, and I have to check regularly for illegal copies being made available on blogs electronically, or sold in other countries (I ahve caught China publishers twice already). I also hold numerous patents (the lawyers do a good job policing those).

It burns my hide when I see copyrights and patents infringed on. Our ideas belong to us. They are our livelyhood. I spent hundreds of hours and made many personal sacrifices to get published, and then some jerk comes along, steals my content, and sells it at half my price. They are taking food from my table. And that really chaps me. My kids all know too well how I fell about these crooks - I preach to them all the time about music downloads and book downloads. Now they always ask me if a particular site is legal before downloading things.

I thnk we should do as other countries do with thieves. If you are caught stealing, they cut off a hand. Caught again, the other hand. Sounds drastic, but i think we are just too candy-*ssed sometimes.