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robert
05-23-2013, 03:26 PM
Who's producing this show?

drfrightner
05-23-2013, 06:33 PM
Whomever is doing joined the forums I approved their account today so you'll probably be hearing from them soon!

Larry

robert
05-25-2013, 08:18 PM
Thanks Larry. I've since found out it's David Marklin and Lora Ivanova. Neither of which I've come across in the industry before.

robert
07-22-2013, 12:01 PM
The producers of this show are pulling this together really well. Great line up of talent and resources. Who's going?

robert
08-07-2013, 07:47 PM
I'm not part of this convention's production team but....................... Why is there not more conversation about this event on these boards? No chat about who's going. Some of the top pros in this business will be doing seminars on some of the most complex shows in the nation. I don't get it.

drfrightner
08-08-2013, 12:38 PM
Honestly I think there are way to many of these things now ... but seems like haunted house industry is growing in LA but I don't know that this warrants a show for it. I guess we'll see how this goes. Larry

austind
08-08-2013, 12:54 PM
Honestly the forums here are always a little dead around this time of year. I may have something to do with a lot of haunts are opening for Sept. 13th and we have a little over 4 weeks to be ready. The other thing is that most people that go to conventions have gone to 1 or 2 already this year so they have used up any time for shows they may have had. The industry is getting so saturated with shows that people have to pick between them and they usually chose one the have enjoyed in the past. I know I go to 4 shows a year, Transworld, Midwest, Hauntcon and IAPPA. I don't know how I could do another and I will skip Hauntcon if the tour is not venues that I want to see. If the people of ScareLA wanted to get more buzz on this forum then all the need to do is come here and post things we may want to hear about, but I have seen practically nothing here about the show. Looks like they need a better PR person I guess.

robert
08-09-2013, 02:15 AM
HMMMM........ Does sound like there is an over saturation problem. Any other factors?

drfrightner
08-09-2013, 02:30 AM
Robert,

I don't know who you consider a top pro... in my book a top pro is someone who owns a haunted house who is actually doing not just talking about it. So there we will totally disagree. Two I think a reason why people aren't talking about it is because no one cares. There is already to many shows out there way to many and it seems like everytime we blink our eyes there is another one.

Clearly the haunt industry has grown and with that people think they can make a buck off of it like start another magazine, start another website, start another tradeshow, offer the next best product or whatever... doesn't work like that.

I am not saying SCARELA won't be fun but c'mon now... there isn't a single person who is in the business that has time to attend this show. And going back to your original comment about top pros are speaking... I go back to what I just said if you are really a top pro then you are working 24 hours a day to get open.

Most haunts are opening on Friday the 13th... that is about one month away. Who has time for a tradeshow? Think about it!

Larry

austind
08-09-2013, 07:44 PM
I will add one more comment and that is the has not been much marketing done in my view, a little on FB and not really much on Hauntworld, I would expect seeing it everywhere for a first time show. Would love to here some comments and photos from people going.

drfrightner
08-10-2013, 12:19 PM
All of these shows are welcome to promote away or send me emails and I'll add them to our page devoted to tradeshows. But I got no email asking. I would agree poor promotion on their part. My tradeshow page gets tons of hits... actually same goes triple for Leonard and Hauntcon he in my opinion doesn't get very aggressive either with Hauntcon.

You have people who want to make money and they think the key to doing that is to spend as little as possible... WRONG!

Lastly this show was poorly thought out... haunt owners can't make a show in August right before their haunts open! So I would assume this show is really for enthusiasts. Larry

oakhillshaunterTHEFEAR
08-11-2013, 08:50 AM
I JUST GOT BACK!!!

This show was my first ever. I learned soooo much and saw so many awesome things. There was one vendor showing animatronics, everyone else was showing masks, prosthetics, makeup, paint, things of that nature. It was busy in my opinion. It took about 45 minutes to see all of the vendors just to walking time. When I stopped to talk to them I spent about an hour at one booth just talking to the guy. He was explaining everything about his silicone masks. He let me try one on it was so awesome. I took a video and I'll post it on youtube and put a link on here. These things were beautiful! The prosthetics were cool. They seeming pretty standard nothing mind blowing. Dapper Caddaver was there OHHHHHH!!! I saw his props and the body parts they looked great! I had always wanted to see them in person and now I have. OH Sid Haig was there. I think thats how you spell his name. The clown guy from House of a 1000 corpses. He is pretty mellow from what I saw. Very animated. I didn't have the money to get his autograph on a picture but It was cool just to meet him. I also met Eric Fox from FaceOff. That dude is so chill. I wanted to pick his brain but he had a huge line waiting to take pictures with him. Butch Dihary was there from ContoursFX and I had registered for a class to take with him but I missed it because of family issues but I'll look for that oppurtunity again. His work is soo amazing. He had a little booth you can see is artwork, it was so amazing!

You know I had a great time. I learned so much. And as far as marketing it they did a great job. Remember Larry, LA is a big place, we like Halloween stuff too. We can have our own haunt convention. Besides you never want to come play with use you just want to stay in St. Louis.

I loved it, it taught me so much, and it won't be my last. GOD I CAN'T WAIT TO GET STARTED!!! WOOHOO!

drfrightner
08-11-2013, 12:02 PM
Just FYI... if that show was in St Louis I would have gone no doubt about it. If I lived in LA I would have gone to that show, Monsterpoloza, during October I'd hit Universal and Knotts and the list goes on. I think you missed the point... people who own and operate haunted houses can't fly to LA in August to either speak or exhibit or to just attend.

I'm sure you had a blast I would have to if I was in LA. As for me not wanting to leave STL... well we are trying to get our three haunts open, plus build 4 for other people plus a mini golf. Kinda hard to leave! LOL

Either way I'm glad you had fun! Please post some pictures!!!

Larry

oakhillshaunterTHEFEAR
08-11-2013, 08:19 PM
absolutely! And please don't misinterpret anything I said as hostile. I still want to get to STL and go to Transworld. My wife is talking about her and I going this next year. So I might actually get to meet you finally. Either way I did have fun. I also understand that August is very late for HAUNT OPERATORS becuase you guys are already building and getting ready. I even told the ticket girl at the counter that once I got there.

Coasterbp
08-11-2013, 10:47 PM
From all my friends on Twitter and on Facebook that went/are going, it was a very good success with a large turnout and awesome panels and classes. Good for them. If I weren't flying overseas tomorrow, I would have been there myself.

-=CoasterBP

drfrightner
08-12-2013, 12:23 AM
Someone post a report and some pictures!!!

We tried to help this show put it up on our facebook!

If they had asked we would have added to our tradeshow list but no one did.

Larry

oakhillshaunterTHEFEAR
08-12-2013, 08:51 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-R_r0AMUyo

heres the best video to give you the all around just of the convention. I only took pictures with my family and one video of me wearing a mask. Not very helpful.

Badger
08-13-2013, 10:41 AM
Here's some info and pics: http://www.laweekly.com/slideshow/halloween-in-summer-absolutely-at-scare-la-40153441/

RJ Productions
08-13-2013, 02:03 PM
According to the posted videos it looked like a good turn out! There have been posts talking about how it wasn't marketed and how the pro haunters would not go to which I would say yes and no..or no and yes. Obviously it was not marketed to the pro haunters. It is in August where we are all too busy prepping for our shows. We are not going to take time away from set-up, marketing and production of our own attractions which are our livelihoods. As far as a motivational time, again motivation is something at this time of the year if you don't have it, you'll be out of business.

From the video they had people attend, LA is a big market. Looking at the vendors it was obviously geared to haunt enthusiasts. Individual haunted houses were vendors. Haunts do not promote themselves at TW because TW attendees will be busy in October! For home haunters and enthusiasts August is a good time to motivate them. If the vendors had cash and carry or smaller items you might even get your stuff before October 31st, but again a pro haunter needs stuff by August, Sept. at the latest.

You see the mix of vendors and seminars geared towards enthusiasts and that's who they marketed to, haunt enthusiasts in the LA area. Again a huge market and some of its inhabitants will plunk down big bucks for their home displays. Many of we consider the pros of the industry again WORK in the industry so they are busy! If you own or run a haunt, you are working. If you don't, then you could afford to go. If you are based in LA you could also sneak away for a bit. But to travel, too much time.

Could this show survive in a time frame when pro haunters could attend? Unknown. With all the other shows, we still only have so much time and money. Focusing on enthusiasts right before they intend to get excited and do things...good choice.

Good show, for what it was intended, absolutely yes. If its goal is the pro haunt market, it won't happen. If I was in LA with time to spare I'd go. However it was a bit of a "tame" show... the girl from Shot In The Dark (always running around with her breasts decorated) had a DRESS on!!!


Good luck and future success.

Deathwing
08-13-2013, 02:46 PM
The show seemed packed to me and it was a great time. You could tell you're in LA, because the make up and costumes made the ones you see at Transworld look pretty mild by comparison. Very motivating show!


Jake

MDKing
08-13-2013, 03:01 PM
Can someone tell me a little more about the vendor at the 13:45 mark in the above video? Who made the winged angel statue? Thanks, Allan

austind
08-13-2013, 03:47 PM
Its Dapper Cadaver here is their web site http://www.dappercadaver.com/ Its run and owned by B.J. Winslow and he is a great guy to deal with. His phone is (818) 771-0818 hope thats what you needed

creep house
08-13-2013, 06:12 PM
i only found out about 2 weeks ago about this show ... Spectra-illusions sent me an email ...

i met a new friend in Tombstone Az. 4 weeks ago that owns the Tombstone ghost and Legends tour Antimated attraction ... VERY COOL !! i also told him about Scare LA , he went and said it was awesome and very crowded with people ...

... he learned alot and is now HOOKED on this Halloween Stuff !!!

he just bought the place acouple of years ago and always wanted to know who made this stuff ...

he told me that he thinks Holloween Productions built it and the owner was a guy named Larry ?? ...Lol

he also said it was almost impossible to get " Larry " on the phone .. as he wants to add and change stuff around ..

he had some problems with some of the equipment and wants to upgrade ...


i walked through the tour and told him who made what prop or controller for each room , and he is now in touch with many different vendors ...

Larry , i know Terri would love to talk to you ... i did tell him that you are VERY busy this time of the year ...



here is Terri's place in Tombstone ........ i cant wait to get back there and help ....




http://youtu.be/qMHSRhlaJ0o

drfrightner
08-13-2013, 07:41 PM
Tell him to call me ... 314 504 3970.

I did try to call him back and left a message never heard back. We are around!!

Larry

creep house
08-14-2013, 12:11 AM
Ok Larry , i will ... thx

MDKing
08-14-2013, 08:35 PM
Its Dapper Cadaver here is their web site http://www.dappercadaver.com/ Its run and owned by B.J. Winslow and he is a great guy to deal with. His phone is (818) 771-0818 (tel:771-0818) hope thats what you needed


Thanks Phatman! I had a hunch is was Dapper Cadaver when I saw the bodies but I wasn't sure.

Allan