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actiondeath
11-04-2007, 10:26 PM
Just got done editing a new promo short for Dead Acres and let me tell ya, I must've went through that show a hundred times and something STILL got my heart racin' on each pass. Killer show, killer actors, killer crowd... What can I say, it's killer. Lines a mile long and license plates from as far off as Texas (DA is in Ohio). It's like a county fair or something. People move out of the area and, no matter how far they go, they make the trip back to the Hoochie every year. It's Haunted Americana! Hahaha. I had a blast filming and talking to the frightened patrons outside. I can't wait till next year.

Words can not describe what Tim and his crew have done with this small piece of property out in the sticks. The machine called 'Hoochie' that they have created. In my opinion, the man is a genius.

You can view the promo here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGwCSZu33aQ

Lemme know what you think!

screamshow
11-04-2007, 11:47 PM
Great work on that video!

damon carson
11-05-2007, 08:28 AM
I dont criticize or ever say bad things on this board. I normally try to help who I can if possible. But I do have to say this about your video. The scene with the man putting the shotgun in his mouth is a little over the top. I think its in bad taste. And if I was to go through your haunt I would tell you the same. I think with the way that the world is today that suicide and different things such as terrorism ect is just a little too real. I dont think young people going through your haunt should be exposed to this. And with something that extreme you would almost need an 17 or over rating. There are alot of trouble teens and children not to mention adults. Some with alot of problems. Maybe they are going to a haunted house to escape reality or there problems. Im sorry but I just think this is very unappropriate and wrong. Its your alls haunted house, you can do what you want but think about what your representing here is not good or a positive thing.
Damon

Mr. Haunt
11-05-2007, 04:02 PM
I think I gave my two cents on the shot gun thing in another post. I would have to agree with Damon, not the best idea for a haunt. Keep things like this in a RATED "R" movie. Way to over the top! Sorry, but it's what I think.

Brian

malicious_intents
11-05-2007, 04:42 PM
GREAT VIDEO..... ( kix axx ) GREAT HAUNT.... KUDOS to you on the video
Very nice work.... I love the sound of the shotgun cocking at the end with repeat of the suicide. NICELY DONE ..... ( brought an evil smile to my face )

actiondeath
11-05-2007, 05:32 PM
And if I was to go through your haunt I would tell you the same.

It isn't my haunt. I'm just a multimedia guy thanking the haunt owner who let me run amok with my camera and bs with his adoring customers. And I won't get into the shotgun discussion again. The last time I did, I was verbally assaulted. I will say this... At least 4 out of 10 customers told my camera that it was their favorite scene and not one of them said that they wouldn't come back because of it. The facts speak for themselves.

Soooooo... Content aside, what did you think of the VIDEO?

6stringjohn
11-05-2007, 05:46 PM
Thats on Bad Ass Video Hell Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No on wants haunted houses with good taste.
We just want it to taste Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ghost River Duck
11-05-2007, 07:35 PM
Well I won't plow the same ground again over the shotgun scene.

The video rocks. IT's great. I liked it and would love to have something like that for our haunt next year.

Jim Warfield
11-05-2007, 07:48 PM
I think at the conclusion of the shotgun scene a game warden should walk on camera and give him a citation for hunting out of season.
"That wood tick on the back of your head was on the endangered species list, you blatant criminal!"
Anybody remember the Monty Python skit of the Upper-Middle Class Twit Competition? They were all so unco-ordinated they couldn't blow their own brains out! Pretty funny, first one to do it would have WON!
I made a poster for my house advertising "The Head-Bangers Ball" featuring all the famous head-bangers as in :"BANG!" =No Head!
I made it fueled by my anger at such a suicide that had recently taken place.

dr0zombie
11-05-2007, 08:41 PM
Nice soundtrack and video.... like the bit of Ministry... I am really going to have to try and get up to see this event in 2008. This event is an enigma to me as it just looks bloody and violent.... I obviously need to go see what I am missing.... cause I must be missing something... :) I guess I need a road trip your way in 2008....

Jim Warfield
11-05-2007, 08:55 PM
I don't hink "Hype" is when the patrons talk favorably about what you have.
That word has negative connotations as in lying by someone incharge of creating advertising .
Enthusiastic former customers usually don't waste their time lying to anyone about how good something was if infact it really wasn't.

dr0zombie
11-05-2007, 09:00 PM
Agreed... hype was probably the wrong word. I removed it as I wasn't trying to imply the show was not what it appears. Obviously people are really into this show as it has a huge following...... I guess I need a trip over there in 2008 to go see the show.

Ken Spriggs
11-06-2007, 07:27 AM
[QUOTE=actiondeath;22882]It isn't my haunt. I'm just a multimedia guy thanking the haunt owner who let me run amok with my camera and bs with his adoring customers. And I won't get into the shotgun discussion again. The last time I did, I was verbally assaulted. I will say this... At least 4 out of 10 customers told my camera that it was their favorite scene and not one of them said that they wouldn't come back because of it. The facts speak for themselves.



Gee i guess I can never just shut up!

4 out of 10 customers said they liked the shotgun thing?
The fact is you have a losing ratio there my friend.
I push the envelope....and many of our actors do
I have been to dead acres. It is a good haunted house.
I can't say GREAT because of some of the issues I had when I went.

We at Dream Reapers decided to have a live sacrifice next year to see what the media does for us then.

The video is pretty cool......

Dead acres does push the envelope.....and like I said I always do
We have had a girl getting killed in a shower for a few years......people just stop and stare....clap.....and say hit her again

actiondeath
11-06-2007, 04:05 PM
The fact is you have a losing ratio there my friend.

Hahaha... That came out wrong. It's not a ratio. I spoke with 10 groups and asked them what their favorite part was. 4 of them said the suicide was their favorite scene. The fact is that the other responses were your normal "chainsaw at the end" (3), "Fence maze where I can't get away from them" (1), and "vortex tunnel" (2). Actually, I think one guy called it the "swirly whirl" which, honestly... If I was the entrapreneur who created that device, I so would've called it the "swirly whirl", so I knew what he was talking about. Anyway, in my poll of sorts, it ranked pretty high.

I remember your experience at D.A., Ken. I think there was a thread a mile long about it. I'm actually sad that it wasn't a good one because I was a guest actor that night.

I also remember your show from Transworld 06. The girl getting killed in the shower seemed, to my wife and I, more like a domestic violence "wife-beater" scene. The girl was BEGGING us to help her and telling us to be quiet because "he might hear us". Then the guy came in with a belt or a chain or something and we just heard this piercing screaming and pleading. It wasn't too unlike the realism of the Hoochie's suicide. It stood out. We talked about it for days. It creeped us out.

Jim Warfield
11-06-2007, 06:34 PM
For many years now I have had a display that makes some people upset (or at least they say they are?)
It has to do with real life Monsters, a bunch of guys from the past who actually did murder and torture millions of people (for fun & Profit?) the NAZIs!
A display, lest the world forget. It isn't bloody or gruesome but I am making fun of them, but this doesn't matter to some people, they think we all should simply ignore history(so it can more easily happen again?)
"What would a Jewish person think of this?" (Because there is a large swaztika displayed)
My Grandfather's last name was Katzenburger, "Katz" is one of the oldest continuously used last names in history , going back 3,500 years and incase you didn't guess, it is Jewish.
I don't practise the religion I'm too much of an American mutt for that, "Mixing of the ethnics!! Verbooten! Yah!"
"Nah!"

texaschainsaw
11-08-2007, 02:40 PM
anyone who thinks the shotgun scene is "over the top" is a puss. its one of the best ones we have and gets a reaction out of the vast majority of the crowd. nice job on the vid by the way.

xxdeathmagikxx
11-11-2007, 11:01 AM
I worked in that skit. Very fast pacing music came on, along with strobes, and i came out with a chainsaw, i had fun in that skit. Now for people saying its a bit over the edge? I really dont think so, i got to watch alot of reactions to the skit, about 90 percent cheered along with my dude eric, saying "DO IT! BLOW UR HEAD OFF! DO IT!" Alot of people were like that, i dont think i seen anyone get sad over it, its FAKE people. I know where you people are coming from though. But if u do go to deadacres.com there is this little "parental advisory, explict contents" Now, if i was a parent and i seen that, i would get to thinking a little bit and be like, hmm? should i take my children to see this show? Oh, and when we say were the most extreme haunted house, were not playing around. So people should think about that. But to each their own. If u dont like our skit, then dont come through pretty plain and simple. We posted videos of the suicide skit months before we opened. Just dont come if u dont want to see a guy blow his brains out.



im bad on punctuation and shit like that. sorry.

Tater
11-11-2007, 01:10 PM
anyone who thinks the shotgun scene is "over the top" is a puss. its one of the best ones we have and gets a reaction out of the vast majority of the crowd. nice job on the vid by the way.

Nice way to lump everyone together. Coming in a forum and saying that just because they don't agree with your scene makes them a puss. We all realize that it is a skit, but sometimes it hits closer to home then others. You wouldn't have a skit of someone getting raped would you? So before you think about coming back in here and calling everyone a puss again sit back and think about what others have gone threw and lived, because sometimes people go to haunted houses to escape reality.

Jim Warfield
11-12-2007, 05:56 AM
If I had just a dollar for each person that I have met who had serious problems even thinking about entering a haunted attraction.........
The rest of us might laugh and say something like, "What do you mean?" and we can say this because of the level of confidence that we have compared to theirs, confidence and sometimes basic calmness.
People are different, some fears we are born with but other fears came via other not so normal or fun ways.
A much higher percentage of women express them and are victim to these fears but men have them too.
The child who was tortured physically or emotionally, not feeling enough love in this life has a much harder time achieving any level of confidence and calm.
I love those customers who can scream then laugh about it, not everyone can do this.
As children some were subjected to incredible fear by others draging them into a haunted house attraction. As adults they never got over it. Is this "funny"?
It doesn't matter what anyone thinks it is , it isn't pleasant or funny to them, the victim.
I first encountered this years ago when I was in the JCs doing their haunt, why would a 30 year old adult be afraid of any simple little mask?
They have their reasons whether they seem reasonable to the rest of us or not.
If you take the time (As I have done many times) and relate to them, talk to them, hear them, eventually they may share their storys with you. Most of these debillitaitng fears come from childhood from the hands of Dad, Step-Dad, older Brother, the JC chainsaw man, and guess what haunters? You will never see another ticket purchased by that person ever again.
Does this sound like a succesfull, viable business plan? Lose paying customers every year?
If you are reading this and you and your business are fine with that, then so be it, no problem.
Dealing with customers and potential customers every night of the year for going on 20 years now has educated me to these concerns as has also needing to make my living from getting the whole van full of family memebers buying a ticket and staying in the house for the tour, being pleased (and maybe impressed?) and coming back again someday.
Yes, it's a "Rush" an ego-thing to scare somebody, lots of fun..as long as it is recieved in the true spirit that it should be given, simply a thrill that can be enjoyed and laughed about later.

bhays
11-12-2007, 07:53 AM
If you take the time (As I have done many times) and relate to them, talk to them, hear them, eventually they may share their stories with you. Most of these debilitating fears come from childhood from the hands of Dad, Step-Dad, older Brother, the JayCee chainsaw man, and guess what haunters? You will never see another ticket purchased by that person ever again.

You make an excellent point, Jim. And I agree with you. Every season we see clueless parents come through pushing their child out in front of monsters so they can be scared, and you can tell the child is being traumatized...same situation with girlfriends, etc.

The question is, how do we handle these situations? During the non-Halloween season, you have plenty of time to talk to these people. For most of us, there's no time to talk to these folks and single them out. And it never fails that the one person who is losing it is in the middle of a group of 5 or 6 other patrons who deserve the 'full show'. Do we cheat 5 other customers?

I have never been to your show in October, so I don't know how you change the tour during the busy times (I assume it has to be drastically different). However, for those of us with a less theatrical, high startle attraction it would seem we are relatively helpless to do anything about these folks.

And in the end, is it really a wash? Most of the people who would be impacted in this fashion would probably never be a customer again anyway...except for the kids who are just plain too young and we try to discourage that. But the same parents who will shove them through the haunt will raise hell with your staff for telling them their child is too young...so maybe it's better to get the money one time than never...tough situation.

Jim Warfield
11-13-2007, 12:33 PM
Yes my tour is different in those busy October weekends, I only can do a 10 to a 15 minute front room routine then helpers take them the rest of the way through the house.
I always turn on the big 300 watt light in the middle of the ceiling and make eye-contact with everyone in the room as I tell them some more essential things they need to know concerning getting through the house.
As they file passed me into the next room and to the hands of my helpers I also make a point of saying "Thank you for coming here."
This way everyone should know who I am and that it is my house and any complaints (or compliments?) can be given to me, or my wife.
When real busy I do not have the time to talk to someone who is extremely afraid outside of the front door, if they end up too afraid inside the house rather than ruin the show for everyone else we will move that person to the next room where it is much more well-lit, while my wife trys to console them before their group hits the second room (kitchen)
Surprisingly, many times this terrified kid chooses to be taken ahead of the tour and allowed to scare the members of their own group! How About That!!?
Too terrified to go through the big old nasty "HAUNTED HOUSE!?"
Give them the opportunity to be a "Haunter" and everything often changes!!

AMAZING isn't it?

I know some people who were terrified of say, "Zombies" as a kid, had terrible nightmares about them..and now as an adult they dress up like a Zombie every October!
Maybe those formerly terrified kids that graduate from victim to haunter from our kitchen can overcome their fears and have some haunting fun? We can only hope for everyone's sake.

damon carson
11-14-2007, 11:59 AM
Ya Ive done this before too Jim. Showing them the other side can help! Letting someone who is scared do the scaring actually lets them see there really isnt anything to be affraid of.
Damon

Jim Warfield
11-14-2007, 06:16 PM
That is usually true, Damon but remember this house is "Haunted" and sometimes "someone" does the scary deed before my helper or Jessica can get to the location!
Several times when this happens the helper or Jessica simply retreats and go away from that place.(alittle scared)
They know the scare happened because they can hear the customers make remarks concerning what just happened...even though nobody (in a fleshed out body), was there!
This is a special house with some ocassionally "special" helpers.

..then there was the time a year ago when as I was talking to the group I was thinking what I should have been doing to scare one particulair person who was standing too far away from me too far to even begin to touch, when she jerked and exclaimed that someone had just touched her on her elbow! ...the spot I had been staring at for 90 seconds, thinking about touching but couldn't for numerous reasons.
I have some good help here.
The lights never shut off and nobody was near this woman, yet it happened.......Thanks, good work.

Or maybe I just have the power to think about something and make it happen?
I tried this experiment several times when the room would go completely dark, I quit trying it ..because the only person's pants that ever fell down were always mine!