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Darkangel
02-11-2008, 07:24 AM
Hi,

AfteR looking through many haunt websites, it looks like maybe some of you use real and fake tree branches in your sets(unless the fake ones look THAT good). So, is this a common practice, cutting real branches and using them for your scenes? I would assume you can easily spray flame retardant on them with no problems....Otherwise, it would seem to be very expensive to use fakes ones for scenes requiring an outdoor or overgrown forest in them......What do you do?


Thanks,

DARKANGEL

Mr. Haunt
02-11-2008, 11:45 AM
Does any one use fake Christmas Trees for their haunt?


Mr. Haunt

Howie Slobber Erlich
02-11-2008, 12:20 PM
Most fire inspectors will not allow any real vegetation in your haunt. Real trees, hay, bushes, flowers and grass are usually a big no-no. I think that what you see are artificial unless the haunts are sneaking these things in after their inspection. Some inspectors may let a minimal amount of it in, with proper fire retardant treatment. It is all very flammable.

Howie "Slobber" Erlich
Owner
Deadly Intentions Haunted House (prison)
www.deadlyintentionshaunt.com

Motograter
02-11-2008, 01:01 PM
Last year we used fake christmas trees and we made fake tree's and branches using monster mud for our swamp room. Turned out very well. When all the major overhead lights are out only using very dim lights and fog. Looks awesome!

Darkangel
02-11-2008, 01:13 PM
Motograter,

Do you have any pics of your scene?

Thanks guys,
Darkangel

Jim Warfield
02-11-2008, 01:29 PM
Getting someone poked in the eye by a tree branch would be a bigger possible danger than anything else, people are walking and running in a dark setting...

Darkangel
02-11-2008, 02:14 PM
Jim,

I would never put things like that in the way of people, just in sets to create the mood.....

Darkangel

Nicole
02-11-2008, 03:23 PM
We use fake Christmas trees. We use whole ones and we take large ones and carnage them. You may still find some "free" ones on craigslist (after Christmas there are TONS) or list that you are looking for some on the "wanted" page on your craigslist. Also list that you are looking for ficus or fake houseplant greenery. It's about that time of year that Big Lots will carry large decorative fake trees too (many different sizes).

Mike Bizub
02-11-2008, 04:21 PM
We use some scrub oak in our swamp. We have it in the back of the scene and drape it with odd scraps of cammo. The fire marshall does require us to spray it but has no problems with us using it. Mike

Motograter
02-11-2008, 05:24 PM
Motograter,

Do you have any pics of your scene?

Thanks guys,
Darkangel

I will check my computer files for them once I get home. I am at work right now using the computer.

gregsalyers
02-11-2008, 05:43 PM
When I was at Rocky Point last year, they had alot of real trees and branches....the just sprayed it with fire retardant

Greg Chrise
02-11-2008, 05:48 PM
I have seen some impressive vines, tree branches even big trees that are fake with real branches as detail. The thing they all had in common was that they were painted, probably seasoned. In other words allowed to dry out for several months to a year and then painted.

Then basically you have painted wood. That can have fire retardant in the paint as well as a utility spray prior the season. One memorable scene is white trees on a tilt floor that you must actually use the trees to steady your trek. They were painted white with some cool lighting. I think they had no bark on them.

To be acceptable, everything must be a synthetic recreation of real things? What's next? Everything must also be bio degradable, never stored but hosed down in to an inert foam at the end of the season, then microwaved to reduce any disease and contamination. A whole 6,000 SF block of a haunted house will fit into a 55 gallon drum and have a disposal fee of $500 per barrel.

If customers are going to be exposed to real things, they must be given face shields and gloves. Is this the haunted house for Bubble Boy? All spooky scenes will be contained in positively ventilated see through bubbles of specified vinyl that must each be monitored that nothing real ever escapes and somehow endangers patrons. They must wear shoe booties that are disposed of in a special area exiting the haunt so as not to possibly drag anything real or the residue of something real into the real world.

I'll be busy making up even more rules. All off season haunted house foam residue barrels must be removed from the premisis by a licensed professional and stored in an undisclosed location somewhere in Nevada.

Jim Warfield
02-11-2008, 06:51 PM
All of this sure sounds expensive but just wait til you add in the armed helicopter escourt!

Ironman
02-11-2008, 07:11 PM
Iím always on the look out for old fake Christmas trees. I use them for all sorts of greenery. I made a topiary tree using some branches of one. I only have an unfinished picture of it without the painted trunk, but you can see here: (itís the one in the center)
http://tinyurl.com/2s6s2p

Darkangel
02-12-2008, 05:11 AM
That's really cool Ironman! Thanks a lot guys. I guess I'll see what my Fire Marshall thinks if I can spray it. All fake ones would be extremely costly.

Thanks,
DARKANGEL

bodybagging
02-12-2008, 06:01 AM
I once sat in on a Rich Hanf seminar and he was discussing the need of Fireshield, he went on and on with his story about the inspectors and came to a part that stuck with me....... He said a Leaf had blown into his haunt and that with everything completely fireshielded, what do you think the inspector picked to test......... That random leaf......... Of course Hanf being the genuis that he is, had already fireshielded the leaf! Sorry if this was offtopic, but the topic made me think of THAT LEAF!!!