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thehauntedhollows
02-21-2008, 07:15 PM
Has anyone used blank gun shots in a haunted house? Or is there no way that would be feasible (something about firing blanks in a small closed space...). There are guns that are just made for firing blanks so we are not talking about real guns and licences and all. http://www.blank-guns-depot.com/ shows the blanks. If you havn't used these, what type of guns do you use in your haunt? I'm looking for an incredibly realistic gun shot, not quiet cap gun style. I want people leaving the scene wondering if they should call EMT (well, maybe not that realistic........)

Any suggestions would be great.

slash
02-21-2008, 07:37 PM
You could get an airsoft or BB pistol that runs on CO2 or green gas, not as loud as the real thing, but still loud.

Jim Warfield
02-21-2008, 08:32 PM
When I was a kid I was given a toy gun that you loaded a roll of plain typing paper into , cut into a roll resembling a roll of caps, the roll fed into the gun with the trigger pull and a plunger popped a small piece of paper from the roll making a very BIG sound!
Does anyone make such a toy gun anymore? It was really neat!
I think it was loud enough to make many going through a haunt jump and think it might have been a real gun noise.

I know of one Illiniois haunt who discharged a shotgun inside of a walk-in meat cooler and we ordered to stop this practise because of the noise level.

poison
02-22-2008, 01:18 AM
Another idea would be to have a trigger on the gun that would trigger a mp3 player (with a big gun sound) evertime you clicked it. That way you wouldnt have to worry about the blank thing. Plus a lot cheaper.

Jim Warfield
02-22-2008, 01:52 AM
Everyone could begin lip-syncing with no sound coming out then you wouldn't need a gunshot sound! Just point and pretend. (don't forget the recoil!)
We used to do this just before the class period would end and our mostly deaf English teacher would crank up her hearing aid just in time for the classes buzzer to go off right above her !

RJ Productions
02-22-2008, 04:59 AM
With things the way they are now a days you really need to think though the idea of using a realistic gun in your attraction. What will the local media do when they find out?? We just had a drive by shooting at a school, a couple days later there is a shooting at an apartment building over a disagreement. Do you really want to portray the use of a gun in your attraction???

Having a big air cannon type fake machine gun is one thing, it's fantasy. Having a realistic gun??? What if a customer pulls out HIS gun and returns fire???

I think there was a similar thread a few years ago and the consensus was using a realistic gun was not worth it. It would be better to use your creativeness and find a different scare.

Frighteners Entertainment
02-22-2008, 05:22 AM
I agree.
On a similar thought, if you were to use a clown (clown pistol ), pirate (mussel loader), cowboy with an old six shooter.....
The pistol isn't tucked away, actor flails it about, then it goes off, you get your startle.

badass
02-22-2008, 09:15 AM
i think jims idea...using a cap gun...will get ya laughed off stage...i know this video sucks..it was shot by a 14 year old and posted on myspace last summer...but it sure stirred up the industry and this board...a much better version is out now shot by kurt chaney or on http:www.hauntedhoochie.com


http://hauntworld.com/haunted_house_forums/showthread.php?t=3102


heres what kurt chaney shot of the scene in action...there sure are some individuals who have a problem with such an extreme haunt....but i will tell ya what... the Hoochie has been around for 20 years and has always been doin these kinda illusions and is a screaming success story....as a matter of fact...in 2004 they took out all the extreme scenes and became listed on hauntworlds top 13 bests in america and the numbers FELL !!!!.....in 2007 they brought back the extreme scenes and the numbers rose dramatically...so i would not put to much weight in the opinions of some of the small minded comments...haha


http://hauntworld.com/haunted_house_forums/showthread.php?t=3256

Darkangel
02-22-2008, 09:42 AM
It's extreme, but not scary. Maybe of the blood was water and shot out at the patrons?

Darkangel

Jim Warfield
02-22-2008, 12:57 PM
I would much rather be "Laughed off the stage" as I fire my cap gun, than have fresh puke to clean off of MY STAGE!
It is extremely difficult for some scary people to become comedians, this is a fact, but upsetting people to the point of them never spending another dollar with you isn't where I wish to find myself.
If only those water/sewer-electric -gas-phone bills didn't keep showing up in my mailbox all the time!
Nobody can please every customer, some are beyond ever pleasing, but if you create a show that pleases enough customers enough of the time, then you have it perpetuated , somewhat, and life can get easier, this applies to ANY kind of a show, of course, the vote IS when they stuff your ticket box with those Green ballots.
Hard to argue with that results.

Nightmaretony
02-22-2008, 01:02 PM
For giggles, I prefer a gag gun that unrolls a banner that says BANG and have a sound effect through thousand watt speakers of a cannon firing.

ScaryJerry
02-22-2008, 06:38 PM
Real guns firing blanks actually put out a considerable concussion and usually some wad shrapnel. Actors have been killed holding blank guns up to their heads and firing them.

Having said that, there are some customers I'd like to shoot.....

Empressnightshade
02-22-2008, 09:08 PM
With things the way they are now a days you really need to think though the idea of using a realistic gun in your attraction. What will the local media do when they find out?? We just had a drive by shooting at a school, a couple days later there is a shooting at an apartment building over a disagreement. Do you really want to portray the use of a gun in your attraction???

Having a big air cannon type fake machine gun is one thing, it's fantasy. Having a realistic gun??? What if a customer pulls out HIS gun and returns fire???

I think there was a similar thread a few years ago and the consensus was using a realistic gun was not worth it. It would be better to use your creativeness and find a different scare.
What about those of us who have Western and Hillbilly themes? Guns are a part of those themes and wouldn't be believable without them.

What I'd like to do is take one of my air cannons and pump the air through what looks like a double barrel shotgun. If someone can come up with a way to do that, I'd be much obliged. ;)

Jim Warfield
02-22-2008, 10:18 PM
If you need some guns for a pirate or hillbilly scene why not build your own guns, make then exaggerated, make the barrels way larger than a real one, make the stock excentuated, paint them Barbie pink? hahahah!
I made a sniper rifle but the barrel was Very long with other such strangeness, my MP-40 machine gun has a very long clip and it is kind of dark , nobody has bothered to shoot me as of yet, maybe because I startle them before they could draw? Maybe because the joke is over before they could draw their gun?
Maybe because I made my MP40 and it's steel and I could beat them to death with it if I really had to? But then the MP-40 is just a part of the whole costume.
The hideous mask I wear when I first see them..wait, I don't wear a mask ....

Empressnightshade
02-22-2008, 11:11 PM
If you need some guns for a pirate or hillbilly scene why not build your own guns, make then exaggerated, make the barrels way larger than a real one, make the stock excentuated, paint them Barbie pink? hahahah!
I made a sniper rifle but the barrel was Very long with other such strangeness, my MP-40 machine gun has a very long clip and it is kind of dark , nobody has bothered to shoot me as of yet, maybe because I startle them before they could draw? Maybe because the joke is over before they could draw their gun?
Maybe because I made my MP40 and it's steel and I could beat them to death with it if I really had to? But then the MP-40 is just a part of the whole costume.
The hideous mask I wear when I first see them..wait, I don't wear a mask ....
Jim, have I told you lately that I love you? :D Your mind is astonishing and innovative. Which is why I wish you would give me ideas on how to create an air cannon shotgun. Send me a PM.

Nightmaretony
02-23-2008, 12:05 AM
Maybe run a long clear flexible hose to the gun and have the trigger run a remote control to trigger the air cannon? It ties the actor in place, though....

Empressnightshade
02-23-2008, 12:14 AM
Maybe run a long clear flexible hose to the gun and have the trigger run a remote control to trigger the air cannon? It ties the actor in place, though....
So, you're suggesting I purchase a gun? A toy gun, maybe?

spookologist
02-23-2008, 12:35 AM
We do it in our queue line area and our customers love it. We have one character who is allowed to fire it and he is usually up on something above the crowd. Its quite cool to have 1,000 people all duck at the same time.
We have permission from the police and we are in a 24/7 industrial area so noise is not a factor. Although we usually don't fire anything after 11:00 pm. And of course, we didn't fire any shots after 9/11. One time a rookie officer didn't check in, heard the shot and got quite nervous... hehe. We never let him live that down. They love it too, just about every night one of the hired police officers wants to fire it.
In the beginning I thought long and hard about it and decided to try it, since then, he's been firing it every night.

So ask the authorities and see what they say and try it. And yes, they are blanks.

Wayne
www.trailofterror.com

Nightmaretony
02-23-2008, 12:52 AM
Empress: you can buy one or make one to allow the tube in back or hidden along the monster's arm.

Also, hope to meet you in person in Vegas.

Empressnightshade
02-23-2008, 12:23 PM
Empress: you can buy one or make one to allow the tube in back or hidden along the monster's arm.

Also, hope to meet you in person in Vegas.
Thanks, NightmareT. Hope to finally meet you, too. :)

ClusterOne
02-25-2008, 03:08 AM
Well I have some experience in this situation. Remembering that Heartstoppers is a Zombie Western we use guns all over the place.

I personally use one out front for queue line gags, we have some outlaws in the saloon using them and our final scare has been the air-shotgun trick that we made a couple years back using the great Evilusions KneeBuckler and a homemade shotgun prop. If you watch our video on the website, every time you see someones hair and clothes get blown back and the person shrieks, thats ol' Hex with his shotgun of fun!

We use starter pistols so there is zero chance of anything actually firing off. Then we use blanks for the shots. It is pretty darn loud, but nobody has ever complained, yet!

-Joel-

Gwen, call me if you would like to see how we did our shotgun, happy to show you.

Jim Warfield
02-25-2008, 03:35 AM
So at the tour's conclusion , you shoot off the loud blank, then ask the customer walking passed you if there is any problem?
Just like the waitress who watches you and comes back to the table and asks you if everything is OK" As you have a big mouth full of food.
Always plan a head.

Empressnightshade
02-25-2008, 08:30 AM
So at the tour's conclusion , you shoot off the loud blank, then ask the customer walking passed you if there is any problem?

No, Jim. I think he uses the air shotgun at the end -- not the blanks.

Empressnightshade
02-25-2008, 08:31 AM
Well I have some experience in this situation. Remembering that Heartstoppers is a Zombie Western we use guns all over the place.

I personally use one out front for queue line gags, we have some outlaws in the saloon using them and our final scare has been the air-shotgun trick that we made a couple years back using the great Evilusions KneeBuckler and a homemade shotgun prop. If you watch our video on the website, every time you see someones hair and clothes get blown back and the person shrieks, thats ol' Hex with his shotgun of fun!

We use starter pistols so there is zero chance of anything actually firing off. Then we use blanks for the shots. It is pretty darn loud, but nobody has ever complained, yet!

-Joel-

Gwen, call me if you would like to see how we did our shotgun, happy to show you.
Starter pistols sounds very interesting. Where did you purchase them, Joel? Oh, and I will be callin' ya. :)

Infoamtek
02-25-2008, 09:41 AM
You can get blank firing guns at Collector's Armoury
http://www.collectorsarmoury.com/ep5sf/

Jim Warfield
02-25-2008, 10:08 AM
The starter pistol might not cost as much as the starter jacket!
The one the high school owned back in the 1960's wasn't loud at all, I could have clapped my hands together and made as much of a bang, and this was way before screaming teenage girls stole some of my hearing.
If you have a house sound track playing loudly in the same rom you might not hear such a weak gun noise.
It might be alot scaroer to have a very quiet, dark room and have a long, slow, zipper sound.
Only the pros could tell if it was going up or down.

Slain
02-27-2008, 10:00 PM
Yeah that BLANK gun.. I remember about 8 years ago some haunt near us decided to do that but the guy ran out of blanks and put the real bullets into the chamber. The results.. Killing 1 (a little girl) and putting another in a wheel chair for the rest of her life. That man is now in jail.. Oh but he didn;t mean to do it.
Moral of the story... If you have to use guns real or not, you need to get out of the haunt buisness because your imagination is very limited when you stoop to that level just to scare anyone!! Pretty Damn lame idea!!

Greg Chrise
02-27-2008, 10:35 PM
There's a slow zipper sound in the dark and the race is on?

Infoamtek
02-27-2008, 11:38 PM
There's no sound of zippers with a kilt, laddie.

Jim Warfield
02-28-2008, 12:11 AM
"If the skirts get any shorter,
Said the Mini to the Mod
I'll have two more cheeks to powder,
And alot more hair to bobb!"


... but if we do hear a zipper...???

how did that operation go?
saves a small fortune in toilet paper...

Greg Chrise
02-28-2008, 12:53 AM
Cart wheels and colostomy bags! Oh no, he thought it was a bag pipe!

ClusterOne
02-28-2008, 04:23 PM
If you have to use guns real or not, you need to get out of the haunt buisness because your imagination is very limited when you stoop to that level just to scare anyone!! Pretty Damn lame idea!!

Well seeing that they totally fit our theme and they are never used as the scare, just a distraction for the main scare in the room. And they are never aimed at the customer, (except for our air blast shotgun) just other actors in the room, they work great for us.

Pretty damn great idea, I say!

-Joel-

badass
02-29-2008, 09:23 AM
as soon as i read that..i grabbed my gun and went to work for my local haunted house...they had me dicin up grandpa with a chainsaw..bashin grandma in the head with a mallot...cuttin off limbs of little children..shovin a 3 foot spinnin auger in the ass of a guy...bashin a pregnant girl in the stomach...and of course blowin my head off with a shot gun......its been a real blast...but not real....of course

hell yeah... from the worlds most extreme haunt...

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/deadacres/ericsshotgun.jpg

Empressnightshade
03-01-2008, 02:32 AM
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/deadacres/ericsshotgun.jpg
badass, that's not a real gun...I really like it! Did you make that?

badass
03-01-2008, 11:30 AM
this is my gun..there are many like it..but this one is mine..it is my best friend..it is my life..i master it like i master my life...with out me.. my gun is useless...without my gun.. i am useless...

no way sista..this gun is real..firing pin removed..so no accidents here...what i was referring to was...its a haunted house...its a show...no one really dies..the effect requires 2 guns.. .the other is fixed in place...and fires 12 guage blanks into a blast receiver...so no flying debree..only a real blast ..which is hard to duplicate...i am thinkin we spend over 4 grand on shells alone...over a decade ago...the effect made the news and the haunt was awarded the news channels highest award given out...in the beginning of the segment ..the news man said were here at the haunted hoochie were theirs alot to loose your head over as they showed the scene right on prime time news......hell yeah

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m88/deadacres/fear.jpg