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shredman
04-22-2008, 06:32 PM
We built and charged last year, but we didn't get a firemarshall to come and check us out. Did we just get away with it, or did we not need to? Also what should I do before calling a firemarshall out?

shredman
04-23-2008, 04:00 PM
please help

shawnc
04-23-2008, 04:31 PM
How long were you open (one day or many)? Did you do a lot of advertising? Were you in a very visible location? All of these could have been factors in not getting noticed. Were you affiliated with a non-profit? That could play a part as well, since many government agencies will let non-profits slide on some of the things they will nail a real business on. For this year, try to find out as much as you can before making contact. The easy way would be if another haunt owner in your state, and even better if they are in the same county and/or city, gives you the heads-up on what specific things the fire department will be looking for.

shredman
04-23-2008, 04:39 PM
we were open two days, we did a good deal of advertising, we charged 1.50 we were in a sub hidden by the woods

haverghast asylum
04-29-2008, 04:00 PM
No fire marshall really? You are lucky I run a free home haunt and they come by every year.

shredman
04-29-2008, 04:04 PM
But do you contact them or do they just show up?

haverghast asylum
04-29-2008, 07:13 PM
I did not call them. Complaints about my structure made them come out.( most of the complaints where lies. just people talking crap about something they know nothing about) But if the city gets the complaint they have to inspect I guess.

SomeThingInTheIce
04-30-2008, 04:02 PM
We had the fire dept. come out during the build last year, we called them....had too my borther got bite by something, still not sure what it was. They pulled up and said "We were going to come out and take a look but we were going to wait untill you opened."lol. Being in a rual area, I think they are a little more lax, Happy that there is something to do. This year we are charging to get in so we will be calling them to see what they are wanting to do.

shawnc
04-30-2008, 06:49 PM
they generally show up to do a safety inspection anywhere from a few days to a couple of months after you open the doors of a new business. With careful timing of the purchase of your business license you can actually get through the season without an inspection. But then I'm in a sparecly populated rural area.

Problem Child
05-02-2008, 04:31 PM
Depending on your city, a temporary structure might not need a fire marshall approval. You should go speak with your city planning department.

When I first thought about going to the city I was instilled with the fear that our haunt would be shut down. Though, our city planning department was very helpful. They explained that in our city (Lakewood, CA), fire marshall approval is not needed for temp. structures. Although there are still building codes regarding the attraction.

The following restrictions carry from county to county in most cases:

- Rear walls (your structure usually has to be at least 5 feet away from any back fencing)

- Side walls and You House (the structure usually also has to be 3 feet away from any side walls or the primary structure of your residence.)

- Connection to other permanent structures (You usually cannot have your temporary structure connceted in any way, excluding power/sound wires, to any other permanent structures on your property.)

Some cities/counties require emergency lighting and emergency exit signs. These lights usually have to run off an alternative power source.

It might seem like a lot, but, most city officials will be supportive. but when people say that the city is easier on charity or not for profit haunts, they are telling the truth. In most of LA County you must go through your cities Finance Dept to obtain a business permit if you are looking to charge.

The Doctor
05-06-2008, 01:31 PM
If I wanted to be open for the season, I would contact the fire marshall and find out all the codes you need to be in complience with. Spending your time, energy and money only to be closed down can be devestating. The rules and regulations can read like instructions for changing the time on you car radio but written in some unknown language that only the aliens from the planet where lawyers come from understand. Ask a 100 people and you will get a hundred answers, architects and contractors just don't know, for some reason we fall in some twilight zone that makes "normal" people stare at you with a blank look. Seriously start early on meeting the compliance. After you do you will rest much easier at night knowing 1. You will be able to open and stay open and more importantly 2. You have a safe haunt where people will have a great time and go home safe.

Infoamtek
05-06-2008, 07:09 PM
One of the things I've discovered over the years is if you go to the fire marshals early with a preliminary set of plans, they will help you work out the compliance issues. Remember, their job is not to close you down but to keep the patrons safe. I have found if you work with them, they will work with you.