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Tater
06-19-2008, 02:31 PM
As the poll states did you make more money at Transworld or MHC

Frighteners Entertainment
06-19-2008, 02:32 PM
How about how much money spent instead?

Tater
06-19-2008, 02:35 PM
Seeing that Transworld isnt a cash and carry show i spent my money at MHC

Frighteners Entertainment
06-19-2008, 02:39 PM
If I stock the correct size granny panties, will you buy from me?

Tater
06-19-2008, 03:36 PM
sure i will

Barry
06-20-2008, 07:23 AM
It is an interesting poll Tater but I do not know if you will get a good answer. Many vendors will write more orders at TW, some because they cross over to the retail side as well. Some vendors have told me that MHC is the most profitable show for them. It just depends on the product being offered. MHC is most assuredly a big cash and carry venue.

drfrightner
06-21-2008, 02:26 AM
Actually this isn't a fair poll at all... It really isn't fair to compare Transworld with MHC or Hauntcon or anything. The Transworld show we've known from the past is a major buyer seller show. All of the focus is on buyers and sellers.

Transworld's shows destroy we're talking atomic bomb these other shows for writting orders. On the other hand with regards to Transworld you also hear the complaints about costs of the show, or it was no fun or whatever.

If you switched the poll around and asked which show did you enjoy more it would be MHC in a landslide...

We're talking about two different shows, with two different agendas, goals and functions. MHC I'm sure all would agree was the show hey enjoyed more and Transworld you'll hear ten times the complaints.

Married couples fight about money more than anything... Transworld is a money show, that is why you hear the most complaints because the show is about money making money, money to support your business.

Larry

spookhaven
06-22-2008, 06:46 PM
Tater first I have to say it was the first I had ever seen you perform and we enjoyed it. Being new to the business and first year convention people, I think they were two totally different shows that serve two different purposes.

Transworld is more for buyers of stores and less about haunters. Very impersonal but was better for us having both types of businesses. Very overwelming however.

MHC was great to see how the actors/actresses take pride in there work, talk to other haunters and much more time to talk to vendors. We spent less here but learned more about the business and suppliers. Actually ordered from ones we missed at Transworld or just didn't have time to get back to. We took folks from our haunt and they loved the show.

You can't make it through Transworld trying to do both a haunt and a store. It's just to much for 3 days.

I think it's great to have the 3 months in between the two different shows. The entertainment at MHC was far greater than Transworld just because it was all haunters.

Tater
06-24-2008, 01:24 AM
Spook

Thank you for the kind words...I always enjoy entertaining others. Its never about what place i did or didnt get...its always about having fun. Welcome to the industry...where are you located at. Always willing to help if oyu need it

spookhaven
06-30-2008, 09:32 PM
I'm in PA. Hoping to some day do this for a living.....LOL

We love it but aren't actors. I love putting the event together and need to learn from watching and chatting with others. MHC was great for this. I think these two shows are beneficial for many different reasons. They both serve a different purpose.

Gore Galore
07-07-2008, 01:52 PM
I am sorry but Larry is right.
You really can't compare the 2. And if you did you would NOT like the anwser.

We write about 5 times the orders at Transworld as we do at any other show ever.
why do you think we are fighting so hard to make the St Louis show so successful?
Most of the larger vendors really do need a show of this BUYER magnitude.

graystone
08-25-2008, 07:59 AM
I would agree that most vendors take more orders at TransWorld. But TransWorld will not be the same show as we have known it in the past. So there could be major changes in the making.

I hope I am wrong for the sake of you guys but I still see a major split. I know several haunts thats going to do what were going to do and thats buy over the phone and take our crews on a well deservd vacation and St. Louis is not the destination. TransWorld had the only Halloween/Haunt show out there and they screwed that up and I don't want to hear it was Rubies fault!

Actually it may be a blessing and you guys can save even more money by not having to pay for a booth in the future and save even more money. Shane and its Kevin I have made a very good point Shane this time.

drfrightner
09-29-2008, 12:56 AM
The fact is that the Transworld show as you know is already changed because the main exhibitor will not exhibit (Rubies) and the Transworld retail show will be smaller than ever. The haunt industry needed and now has its own show which was the right move.

The fact is the haunted house industry, is part of a bigger Halloween Attraction industry, which includes pumpkin patch events, corn mazes, renfairs, amusement parks, farms that start Halloween attractions and the list goes on and on.

The Halloween Attraction industry is a BILLION dollar industry, and should and now does have its own show.

We need a show that is only for these vendors and these buyers and now we have it...

So feel happy, proud and excited.

I am thrilled I can tell you that much, not because of the fact its coming here, but now we can separate ourselves for a retail industry, which we don't belong. We want to see vendors who want to sell to Halloween attractions and we need more than ever.

We need to see our industry grow and it is only possible if we embrace this new and exciting direction.

Now last but not least... I know for a fact that MANY Halloween retailers will be at this show a lot of the BIG ONES!

Now they will bring the stuff they want to sell to haunts!

Larry

michaeldavy
05-21-2009, 08:36 AM
TW isn't a money show anymore.
OOOPS excuse me, yes it is a money show but the only ones who make money are TW, the Sands, Freeman, the concession *with their $2.50 pint of milk, the hotels, Airlines everyone but me.

I'll be at Midwest with bells on. Nothin' better than a good ol Ohio, depressed economy, unemployed, desparate mass killerattitude, homocidal chainsaw weilding, Amish buggy scare for me!

There's somethig about a 12% unemployment rate that makes for a reeealy scary halloween season.
Go Cavs
(hope I don't need to reedit this)

halloweenroom
05-01-2011, 05:27 PM
Our production company spent about 10k between two haunts this year at TW. if we go to MHC we will be merely socializing and picking up odds and ends missed from March purchases.

drfrightner
05-24-2011, 03:06 AM
I can't believe this thread still lives... LOL.

All the shows are cool but if you are a real haunted house owner or vendor there is ONLY one choice and that is Transworld, IAAPA second, and then Hauntcon and MHC. MHC has Zombie walks, body painting, and all sorts of fun things to do, and a high focus on actor training so clearly actors are invited so in the end it really depends on what you are looking for. If you own and operate or sell things TRANSWORLD...its not even a debate.

If you want haunt tours go to Hauntcon or MHC.

Larry

Joe P
07-27-2011, 09:39 AM
Well I certainly blew more money at Transworld, but thats because they had more vendors that catered to my tastes, and the networking was better than expected, but I told my crew this year we had to do the MHC show cause its a blast! But the eye candy at Transworld cant be beat! 2012 here we come!

Wolfenhowie
03-18-2012, 09:51 AM
This was my first experience at Transworld and enjoyed the city and convention immensely. However, once you have seen st Louis, you have seen it. Are there any plans to make Transworld a "traveling" convention? In other words, have it in Dallas one year, New Orleans the next, etc....It seems that would give the Haunt owners and crews something to really look forward to each year especially if you know you will have the chance to see haunts in that area and a new city to explore each year. Again, I am new to this and do not know the history of Transworld at all so be gentle with me.....

BigT
03-20-2012, 12:48 PM
My son and I have made TW a tradition because this is where we make our purchases for the year. We have an attack plan, and we are actually able to get through the entire show with time to spare, and without missing anything. I was grateful for many of the vendors doing cash and carry this year at TW. Glad we drove instead of flying! Will be looking up MHC dates and maybe we can make the next one.

SeanMassacre
03-28-2012, 02:22 PM
I doubt that Transworld is going to move from St Louis anytime soon. They moved from Chicago, where their corporate offices are located. St Louis is centralized in the USA, it is a great location for the event. I can't understand why HauntCon moved way out to PA. Was thinking of going this year if it was in KY again, but no way am I driving 14 hours.

HauntedMemphis
03-30-2012, 04:51 PM
This was my first experience at Transworld and enjoyed the city and convention immensely. However, once you have seen st Louis, you have seen it. Are there any plans to make Transworld a "traveling" convention? In other words, have it in Dallas one year, New Orleans the next, etc....It seems that would give the Haunt owners and crews something to really look forward to each year especially if you know you will have the chance to see haunts in that area and a new city to explore each year. Again, I am new to this and do not know the history of Transworld at all so be gentle with me.....

This has been talked about a lot, and it pretty much comes down to the fact that travelling would be terrible for the show. This show isn't targetted for tourism or for haunt crews. It's targetted for buying.

Between the Shane Party, The Darklight Party, and the HAA party, I don't get around to see St. Louis anyway. That didn't stop me from spending a lot of money on the show floor though, which is what this show is all about.

SeanMassacre
04-04-2012, 12:07 AM
DrFrightner aka Larry, I heard from someone that IAAPA had 4 vendors for haunts and was a total waste of time. My suggestion to everyone is to save your money and go to Transworld. Bring CA$H, because all the vendors are willing to cut deals.

drfrightner
06-21-2013, 01:49 AM
Sorry I didn't see this sooner... ahh you'd be totally wrong!

IAAPA is better than any show on the planet for haunted houses! If your goal is to truly be a cut above the rest then you should go to IAAPA because at IAAPA you will find vendors, services, idea's, products you will never find at ANY haunted house show.

Honestly I haven't bought anything from the Transworld show in SIX YEARS... I find new vendors here on the Hauntworld forums, or from new vendors contacting me about the magazine, I work close with certain vendors to custom create products for me, but I also find things at IAAPA that I can only find at IAAPA. Let me tell you I've walked that show floor for 20 straight years and all 20 of them I think about the haunt industry, telling those guys to come to Transworld to expose their products to US... I've helped get many of them over to our industry.

I've seen more crazy things at IAAPA than you can shake a stick at! Your definition and mine of what is or isn't a haunt vendor would differ greatly because I don't see haunt vendor so black and white because I don't see the haunt industry as just scaring people.

I think haunt owners should consider themselves as entertainers... we get paid to entertain. What is the IAAPA show all about??? ENTERTAINMENT!

Now with all of that being said Transworld is an incredible show JUST FOR haunted houses specifically... but if you dare to think outside of the box then IAAPA is a must show for anyone.

Look I'm not putting down any show, but MHC has NOTHING on Transworld, and Transworld has NOTHING on IAAPA... we are talking about a show that is about 600,000 square feet, with about 22,000 guests, Transworld is a show that is about 100,000 square feet with about 4,000 guests, while MHC is less about buying and selling and more about haunt tours, parties, events and education for people who either like haunted houses, Halloween or own them.

If we are talking about a straight up HAUNT SHOW then Transworld has NO EQUAL that includes Hauntcon, MHC, and all the rest combined! However if we are talking about a straight up show for amusement attraction owners and operators which a haunted house is one of then IAAPA IS THE KING!

Larry