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The Ghoulish Gallery
07-23-2008, 10:29 PM
Some friends and I had dinner tonight and the topic of conversation somehow ended up on what horror related celebrities have "jumped the shark."

For those not familiar "jump the shark" is a reference to that one episode of Happy Days where Fonzie did a motor cycle jump over a great white shark. To many, that single episode marked the beginning of the end for Happy Days, hence the phrase "Jump the shark" being used to describe something that has gone beyond it's prime.

Anyway, during this discussion, one of the names that came up was "Elvira". We actually had a big debate over whether or not we thought "Elvira" was still a marketable commodity. "Elvira" had quite the line over at Rubies at last year's Transworld but at the same time I'd think twice before doing a changing portrait of her. I personally love her but then again that warm, tingly feeling in my neither regions might just be nostalgia.

What do you think? Is "Elvira" still a marketable commodity for general public or has she "jumped the shark."

Just wondering,

Tim Turner, Head Honcho
www.ghoulishgallery.com

graystone
07-23-2008, 10:53 PM
I have personally meet Cassandra aka Elvira many times. Let me be the first to say she has a heart of gold. She is loving, caring, and so informative its unreal! She is in my tops for sure along with Robert Englund who I have also meet several times. These two are over the top! Yes she is still a very marketable! On another note is anyone wants to meet her she will be at my friend Pauls haunt the first Fri and Sat of October! Check out the Atrox website for more info! Shane and thats Your still hot Elvira Shane this time.

UndeadProd
07-23-2008, 10:56 PM
Elvira is certainly less of a mainstream icon that she once was. I'm sure she still has a loyal fanbase -- but not sure how many people under the age of 20 (ie the majority of most haunted attraction customers) would really know who she was.

I think it's less about her personally, and more about the low "Q rating." Other icons from the 80's and 90's continue to be discovered on home video or reinvented by Hollywood (Michael Bay's Friday the 13th remake is on the horizon) -- but it's not as if Elvira is really in the public eye anymore.

I know there was talk of a reality show to find the "next" Elvira, did that actually happen?

Jim Warfield
07-24-2008, 12:01 AM
To be "Looking" for the Next..one, whatever? When you haven't "Lost" the first one.
Sounds like a cad/playboy at a bar with his wedding ring in his pocket.
Hard to mask the white strip of finger skin where the ring always is.
Anybody remember that Transworld when she was appearing there , some magazine made it a pre- story and Transworld opened the flood gates to what must have been the general public that day, bringing all foot traffic to a halt all around her location. Venders were not happy with a traffic jam that was gridlocked.

Slain
07-24-2008, 11:39 AM
Elvira is one of the hottest 60 year olds I know!! That's why she is booked at our haunt this year... We felt she is very marketable because of her icon status. I have had tons of e-mails from fans wanting to meet her. Elvira's agent has told me this could be one of her most successful appearances in a while. Just from the marketing stand point.. This will be a huge opening for us...
She normally doesn't do haunted houses, but ours she didn't want to miss!!!

damon carson
07-25-2008, 10:52 AM
I would say she still looks good for her age. She is still very marketable. Damn I didnt know she was 60? Really? Maybe those are real cobwebs! LOL! Just joking!
Damon

The Ghoulish Gallery
07-25-2008, 11:45 AM
FYI: Cassandras is only 56, not 60.

Tim Turner, Head Honcho
www.ghoulishgallery.com

graystone
07-25-2008, 01:46 PM
56,57,58,59,60 hell point is shes still HOT! Shane

Slain
07-25-2008, 03:43 PM
FYI: Cassandras is only 56, not 60.

Tim Turner, Head Honcho
www.ghoulishgallery.com

Damn Tim,
Now that I know that I will have to propose marriage.. shit out of it don't be one....

professornightmare
07-26-2008, 09:09 AM
not worth the price tag....
Most of the people going through your haunt are families...the young kids don't know who she is and most of thier parents won't care. Only the "die-hard" horror film fans will care and they are less than 10% of your audience. Tim email me personally at ihaunt@aol.com if you like..I'll fill ya in.

Greg Chrise
07-26-2008, 10:34 AM
I got the idea that the find the next Elvira competion was to find younger candidates that would be clones like Santa does to hit way more events. The one they picked was even hotter or at least cuter than Elvira was back in the day. But, can she sing and do the schtick?

It has been more than a year and no information? Is she in Elvira Boot Camp?

Slain
07-26-2008, 11:36 AM
not worth the price tag....
Most of the people going through your haunt are families...the young kids don't know who she is and most of thier parents won't care. Only the "die-hard" horror film fans will care and they are less than 10% of your audience. Tim email me personally at ihaunt@aol.com if you like..I'll fill ya in.

Professor,
How would you know who attends our attraction?
I will bet you that Elvira brings in 8 to 10 thousand people on our opening weekend?
Would you care to make an online bet?

John Coen
07-26-2008, 11:59 AM
She's still hot, but a changing portrait of her would be "jumping the shark".

professornightmare
07-26-2008, 12:02 PM
I have no idea who attends your attraction..I was replying to Tim and referring to my 10+ years of dealing with celebrities. I hope she draws 50,000 people to your event and wish you an awesome season.
Her diehard fans (40+ year olds) will be happy to see her but today's crowd thinks that "Freddy" is "classic-horror." If you have 8-10 thousand people your first weekend...it will be because "you" did a great job and have a good product..not just to get an autograph..(unless she's giving out discount-gas coupons).
Hopefully she is just appearing for autograph money plus expenses because if you agree to a minumum or set price..you might just get a "fright" ;)

Slain
07-26-2008, 04:51 PM
I have no idea who attends your attraction..I was replying to Tim and referring to my 10+ years of dealing with celebrities. I hope she draws 50,000 people to your event and wish you an awesome season.
Her diehard fans (40+ year olds) will be happy to see her but today's crowd thinks that "Freddy" is "classic-horror." If you have 8-10 thousand people your first weekend...it will be because "you" did a great job and have a good product..not just to get an autograph..(unless she's giving out discount-gas coupons).
Hopefully she is just appearing for autograph money plus expenses because if you agree to a minumum or set price..you might just get a "fright" ;)

You might be right but I too have dealt with celebrities for a while and never lost money.. Last year we had the likes of Robert Englund and had record crowds and we didn't feel we had gotten screwed. But thanks for the concern. Elvira's agent told me they have had more hits from her site in the last two months than they have ever had after she announced she was coming here. Rock On!! Right now I'm getting an average of about 1000 hits per month just from her site so we'll see......
Hope you season is also a good one...

AnandaHexen
07-26-2008, 04:52 PM
I would never consider Elvira as a "jumped the shark" celebrity, but I don't think that her status is as marketable for haunted houses as it would be for horror/fan boy conventions. I have always heard that she is an amazing person and I think she deserves every bit of celebrity that she gained in her heyday, but unfortunately those days are gone.

I will say, as an actress and instructor, that there are many haunted house actresses who, consciously or unconsciously, ape (or attempt ) her style and attitude and that trend, along with the goth dominatrix look, has DEFINITELY jumped the shark.
:roll:

professornightmare
07-26-2008, 10:26 PM
You can owe me a drink later..lol! Book "any" true horror celebrity along side of WWE celebrity (superstar)....watch and see "who" has the cult status..now "that" I would bet on! I still "dont" understand it...but you can bank on it!!

drfrightner
07-27-2008, 01:29 AM
I would agree that Freddy and those guys are now classics, the people growing up today barely know those characters. Elvira was HUGE in the 80's doing Coors commercials and all of that but no where near the same popularity. I agree with John today Freddy for example is a classic, and most do not know the classics.

They know SAW (which I personally think SUCKS) they know the new Letherface, and you barely know something like The Ring at this point.

There are no real horror franchises anymore like Freddy and Jason but they will all be reintroduced with remakes. I think a Freddy remake will suck without Robert England, but it appears they will make it without him.

I personally love Elvira, and would bring her in anytime but it would depend on the money...REALLY depends on the money. It really boils down to the media, will they come out because she's there? If not no one is worth the money. Celebs to me all boil down to getting media attention, if you don't get media attention then they aren't worth anything.

Larry

professornightmare
07-27-2008, 04:05 PM
I agree totally..

Slain
07-27-2008, 07:49 PM
Larry,
How many celebrities have you brought in over the years?
Just curious?
And if you have who have they been?

Terror_Field
07-28-2008, 10:50 AM
I'm 25 and know who elvira is and now days kids might not actualy know her but know of her every one has hard the name and I think shes hot very hot actualy based on her age and yes she is still in "icon" of horror/halloween and is marketable.

Oh and YES they did do "The next Elvira" so who knows what Elvira now and the new plan on doing.....There is no point of having a new Elvira unless they plan on bring her back in bigger aspects other then meet and greets and commercials, they want to attract a younger audience. I totaly think its a start of a Elvira comback.

Slain
07-28-2008, 11:13 AM
I'm 25 and know who elvira is and now days kids might not actualy know her but know of her every one has hard the name and I think shes hot very hot actualy based on her age and yes she is still in "icon" of horror/halloween and is marketable.

Oh and YES they did do "The next Elvira" so who knows what Elvira now and the new plan on doing.....There is no point of having a new Elvira unless they plan on bring her back in bigger aspects other then meet and greets and commercials, they want to attract a younger audience. I totaly think its a start of a Elvira comback.

Thank you for your input... That is what I'm saying. This Lady (Elvira) last year alone made 6 million dollars from the Rubies costume deal. These guys know what they are doing and yes she is very marketable. I will let you know after our opening weekend this October how good she really is. I will have footage of her on our web-site soon that she cut exclusively for us and her appearance at Atrox.....

FearSeeker
07-28-2008, 12:55 PM
FYI, I think I found a website for the next Elvira. It even appears to have a video clip (the bottom video on the right side of the page) showing the real Elvira "crowning" the new Elvira. You have to watch the video for a minute before you see that part.

Everything I saw on the web about this indicated that Cassandra did participate in selecting her new replacement. Anyway, here's the site:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=367088052

And yes, those are supposed to be pictures of Cassandra (the real Elvira, not dressed up) with the next Elvira in her Elvira attire.

Greg Chrise
07-29-2008, 11:11 PM
The origional Elvira has more than 74,000 myspace friends. The new girl has 164. I have never seen one that actually had more than 25,000 that didn't accidentally get deleted so there is some big popularity even perhaps being in cahoots with myspace with her character.

If you go through the profiles there are lots of young people. It the present, not the past keeping her active. But, all across the country at major cities where possibly conventions happened vs. being a draw at one haunt might be two different things.

By cloning the show, it could be at 10 different major theme parks at the same time. Each generation has their own to identify with even cross dressing Elviras and Midget Elvira's apparently. There is no stopping this. They all need to buy a wig and a dress with a little plastic knife somewhere.

I haven't seen any pets dressed as Elvira yet but, I'm sure it will happen.

Terror_Field
07-30-2008, 07:23 AM
to see Elvira without makeup go to http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-501&va=Cassandra+Peterson&sz= and I have attached one to this post

damon carson
07-30-2008, 10:46 AM
Larry you ought to bring Elvira to the Darkness again! That would be huge! Im sure the media is still interested in her. But how much does she ask for? Ive heard Ten thousand? Is that really realistic or is it really true?
Damon

Dusti
07-31-2008, 01:05 PM
I know there was talk of a reality show to find the "next" Elvira, did that actually happen?

It certainly did, last year!

http://www.foxreality.com/show.php?id=35564

It was..I want to say a four part series?
Very entertaining. (One of the contestants made a donation to the Haunters for Hooters auction this summer, which was quite wonderful!)

I do think Elvira's still a strong commodity - she continues to get a strong fan turnout at her appearances.