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chainsawdayandnight
08-13-2008, 10:59 AM
Hey everyone does anyone have any tips on how we can keep out a person. The story is that a kid that every year comes into our haunt, messes up something or breakes something. He even ran through the tarp where is had no hole and it fell down. By the end of the haunt last year we had 4 broken props not including the tarp. So please any help!!
Thanks,
The Screamatorium

SheDevil
08-13-2008, 11:13 AM
I don't know how old this kid is, but you could tell him that he's not allowed without a parent or guardian. You could also tell him and the parent or guardian ahead of time this year that anything he breaks, he must pay to replace, or post a sign to that affect, or make him sign a waiver to that affect before letting him enter. That may discourage him from even entering.

chainsawdayandnight
08-13-2008, 11:18 AM
Well this kid is about 16 and he is always walking around with his skater friends smoking and even tearing up peoples yards year around. But on halloween he is always walking by himself and two friends.

SheDevil
08-13-2008, 11:24 AM
How about posting a scary looking security guard in uniform out front who tells him that he and his friends are not welcome, and if he still insists on coming in, let that guy tell him before he enters that he will be paying for all that he harms or breaks?

dshaunt
08-13-2008, 11:25 AM
I dont know an exact answer to your question, but a few years ago I had a kid who did the same thing...we had police there directing traffic and they took care of him real fast. the only think was he would go through with a different mask everytime and it was hard to tell who it was...

The waiver idea sounds good, keep your eyes peeled this halloween!

shawnc
08-13-2008, 05:59 PM
No Masks should be one of your rules, for safety (visibility and tripping) if nothing else.

FearSeeker
08-13-2008, 06:31 PM
This is just the beginning of an idea and you can work on it to make it fit your needs, but what if you told him that no kids are allowed without a parent or guardian, and if he got upset about that, you could tell him (or have the security guard tell him) that if he's too old not to need a parent or guardian with him, then he's too old to be out trick-or-treating (and doing destructive things to other people's haunts). You could have a sign posted somewhere out of the way to show him, but only enforce it for undesirables, perhaps? Sorry, but I'm new to this, so I'm just sort of thinking out loud. Maybe others can help with this.

OgeXam
08-14-2008, 08:43 AM
I saw just post a sign that says "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."

Then when he shows up in line tell him, nope you may not go through we have had complaints on you in the past.

N2SPOOKINU
08-14-2008, 09:47 AM
You do have the right to refuse entrance to anyone without explaining why. However to keep this kid from being a problem simply "escort" him and his friends thru the house ensuring they dont tear up your stuff. It sucks when patrons destroy what you work so hard to build but it does happen. We have security cameras in our haunt to watch for anything going on and radio our security to take care of the problem. I think the best thing to do would be to escort them. Then your not making anyone mad , just follow behind them and if they get out of hand have them removed.

haverghast asylum
08-21-2008, 09:30 PM
Private property. If you don't want some on your property you have the right to make them leave. If they don't leave then it could be considered tresspassing.
Atleast that's how it works around here;)

creep house
08-24-2008, 12:59 AM
Have you thought of having him Killed ?

and use him as a prop...to replace the one he broke ??

just a thought..............................

Haunting Copy
08-24-2008, 05:33 AM
There is no way in hell I would let that brat in the house!

Even if you have cameras and press charges and all that, you would *still*
get your stuff destroyed *again*.

And a personal escort through the haunt, just so *he* won't get pissed off??
No. You should NEVER have to put up with this behavior, much less
mollycoddle the little brat!

Shawnc's recommendation is good, in that people should have to leave
masks off. They're not going to want them while going through the
haunt, anyway.

If you notify the police beforehand, and give them the whole story, I'll
bet they'll be glad to help.

When the kid tries to get it, you refuse entry and tell the scumbag that
if he decides he'd like to cause trouble, that's fine because you have
already told the cops about him.

And if you do happen to have surveillance cameras, great! Use them. :)

Sarah

Dr. Giggles
08-24-2008, 12:52 PM
Post a sign out front saying that all activity on the grounds are being monitored for security purposes. Regardless of wether or not you really are monitoring if you put a no mask rule into effect the threat of that kind of surveillance or force should be enough. I mean its helped to keep troubelsome youths out of my haunt.

Jim Warfield
08-24-2008, 03:03 PM
A kid that is constantly getting himself hurt (for attention?) and is always in trouble or getting troubled by other kids beating on him(for usually very good reasons)
Such a kid came through my house one October and proceeded to kick every male employee he met in the nuttz! Just because he could! And was too small to punch out.
I told his Grandmother he was never allowed to come in here again. This worked.
It is a small town. Maybe that's why it worked?
I predicted more than just a few times that I would be very surprised if he ever lived to see his 18th birthday...then maybe they found the right tranqs. or something, he grew physically up and has seemed to have calmed down , become a more social person, in a normal way.
We all hope........

Dr. Giggles
08-24-2008, 03:12 PM
That reminds me of a time i went to a haunt with my nephew. ((Because hes a haunt freak...like me!)) and an actor scared him, and i dont know if it was out of reflex, perhaps our of fear? But he then proceeded to deliver a swift kick to the actors....danger zone hahahaha and i swear the actor clicked his fingers twice and these two samoan guards, they were HUGE i mean BIG guys came in and escorted us out of the haunt...it was pretty interesting...

Haunting Copy
08-24-2008, 06:55 PM
One Halloween, my brother and I were handing out candy, and
a couple of young guys came up - probably around 13 years old -
and they hesitated for a second, and neither one of them said
"trick or treat."

Then, a second later, one of them reached out and punched me.
Then they ran off.

My brother and I were so stunned that we both just sat there
staring at each other through our witch and werewolf masks.

I was wearing a long, hooded cloak. The boys probably couldn't
see that I was five months pregnant.

Dr. Giggles
08-25-2008, 12:26 AM
How horriblle! They just walked up and punched you....just like that...for no reason at all? Was everything ok...with the baby and everything?

Wow i just cant commprehend what might have been going through that boys mind when he punched you?

mbudenske
03-21-2009, 07:51 AM
I simply walk up to the offender and tell him/her to leave. I tell them that I am in charge and that they are leaving or they are being arrested.

End of conversation. they know that they are out of line and they are taking advantage of your good will.

Your other guests will probably appreciate it that you demand people act in an appropriate manner.

theeverydayguy
03-23-2009, 10:34 AM
i been through something like this the kid was running through the haunt poking the actors with a fake knife and he broke one of my favorite props:mad: so what i did(me be about 6'4 and about 210) just grabed him by the sholder and i basicly draged his ass out and call trhe cops the kid had looked like he was on drugs so they took him to jail and i got money from the parents to repay for the prop that was the last time i saw thaT KID IN MY HAUNT!!!!!!:)

Jim Warfield
03-27-2009, 08:17 PM
When wearing certain types of clothing, like a cape securely fastened around your neck!
I found this lesson waiting for me when I put a hand upon the drunk's shoulder and asked him to leave.
We tussled toward the door, we got outside, I figured I had the surprise advantage over him if I acted quickly , with speed. I ran him backwards along the side of my house for about 35 feet, then he unwisely decided to pull me down on top of him , he put himself on the upside-down steel rail road ties that comprise a bench at the corner of my house "(This HAD to hurt, even for a drunkie!)
So there we lay, on the bench, me on top (my usual position ) him on his back beneath me, looking up, screaming how he is going to kill me, ex cetra...
He still had a hold of my twisted cape, I couldn't really move. I said, "The first thing that you have to do is figure out how to get up!"
I looked up and there stood the Chief of Police, he had been driving passed when we came bursting from the house.
I have posted here before about this and was scoulded for "touching" him.
This is my house. I own it. I had just watched and listened to his drunken threats to punch his own , sober cousin while they were in my kitchen, after he began spitting on the floor and refused to stop, my Wife was standing close to these two, in possibly harm's way if the punches began and they were all three infront of antique built- in kitchen cabinents that have normal glass windows, waiting to slice and dice "somebody", Drunkie, his sober relative or my Wife!
It WAS time for him to leave!
Some of my helpers happened to see this all happen and were impressed by" the old guy"!(Me)
This being impressed was something to hear coming from the hugely muscled youngman I had working here that night.

PumpkinGIRL
05-10-2009, 03:48 PM
did you ever try to put a fence around your decroations or tie down your decorations it works for me.

coltonk
10-04-2009, 09:26 AM
I know ths may seem a bit extreme but he will certainly remember it!!!
Hire someone who is in costume to wait inside the haunted house and when the kid comes in beat the tar out of the kid. Let him know it is from all the neighbors who is tired of him causing damage..

farnsworth
10-04-2009, 10:49 AM
Crown Control: Use someone to walk in behind potential problematic customers. As soon as a customer screws up, your Crowd Control Person Lights up their flashlight and escorts the patron out of the house. We use it at a professional haunt on really busy nights, but it would probably help a home haunt every night, since people have a harder time withstanding the temptation to break something in a smaller venue.

The Forsaken Crypt
10-05-2009, 01:59 PM
That angers me. I had a kid one year walk through and one of my actors jumped out and this 13 year old brat tried to start fights with him. I went up to the punk said "Listen buddy, Dont start fights with my actors or get the hell out" I also had a bloody stump of wood in my hand so that really helped. Kid went through 5 times but nothing happened that was bad so all was good :)

theeverydayguy
10-17-2009, 09:30 PM
personally i would stop him and then i would punch him in his face those dam kids dont know how much time and money go into the haunts

Darkmaster
10-18-2009, 05:41 PM
So far, we haven't had any problems. Last year we had a group of kids that wanted to hang out. We made them leave because I didn't want anyone hanging around and loitering. They were alittle upset, but did leave. I've been lucky enough to not have to experience any trouble.

You need to do what you have to inorder to have a smooth operation.

Allen H
10-18-2009, 09:46 PM
My recommendation is to try being nice to him, learn his name for starters. Greet him kindly, and walk him through personally in order to show him all the cool stuff. Just a thought, most kids that age would love to work in a haunt, If he volunteers for you helping to build it he might not want to destroy it when its open. Yes some people are just jerks and its deep in their blood and cant be fixed or chained, but try nice first.
Allen H

shawnc
10-19-2009, 03:57 AM
Allen makes an excellent suggestion about befriending them.


Kid went through 5 times but nothing happened that was bad so all was good :)

But if being nice doesn't work, don't let them go through five times. Stop them at the first sign of trouble and don't let them back in. You are under no obligation to do so, paying customers or not.

ryagl
03-06-2010, 12:04 PM
You could have actors follow him and beat the crap out of him if he destroys anything. Lol. I had the same issue. I told him he couldn't come in and sent him away. Now I pay a constable $100 for the night to discourage any misbehavior.

Dreamreaper
03-08-2010, 08:48 PM
Create a special room at the end of the haunt and if he is bad send him in there. You could call it the TAZER-ROOM and have fun with him. or build a solid room with trap door that he enters and cant get out untill your ready to let him out.