View Full Version : Makeup Playtime testing.....
08-31-2008, 01:27 AM
Kevin showed off some nice work so I figured I would give screamline studios a plug and post some makeup playtime testing shots myself. I bought a collection of the slip pieces from screamline studios and happened to find a few old wedding dresses in the hunt this week so that made tonight a speed test and photos with the new screamline slip latex pieces. For a piece you can quick throw on and hit with a few washes and some quick detail work I think it looks very nice.
I have to say, I was very impressed with the piece compared to some of the much more expensive stuff I have bought in the past. I am looking forward to playing with the other pieces I got. You guys make some nice s&*t Jason!
08-31-2008, 08:18 AM
Sweeeett ! Looks good my man!
Love the eyeball thing, thats one of my favorite make up techniques to do.
Great work man and yes total kudo's to Screamline,love their products!
And dude you put on a wedding dress, Your as wrong as i am!
08-31-2008, 08:36 AM
Well since i know Jason will see this im going to ask both of you a few questions.
Doc or Jason,
You used Screamlines slip maks to do this make up, did you just adhesive glue this to your face or did you attach it to a bald cap? I would think attaching it to a bald cap and glueing on hair would be the way to go for ease.
Jeez i have six of these slip masks i bought at TW 3 years ago and have been procrastinating what to do with them ever since. They made wall plaques out of them and iv'e been thinking of doing that but now i see this it makes me think..hhmmm?
And Jason i was just on your website, can you please explain your airbrush latex.
Is this meant for a small face paint airbrush system and if so how the hell do you keep the airbrush from clogging? Man ours clogs with just paint! (we have built hot boxes for our paint ofr cold nights and this has helped tremendously.
Or is this meant for larger haunt projects to be sprayed through a larger airgun for props and such? Im assuming the first of my two questions would be right because of the way its worded. Yet i can't believe it would be possible to shoot latex through an airbrush so im puzzled.
But again leave it to Screamline to find a way to do that.
Thanks in Advance,Kevin
08-31-2008, 09:35 AM
That looks great!!!! if you dont mind i would love to see other painted slip masks that you do. I do want to say thank you for the kind words it means alot!!!
08-31-2008, 09:57 AM
When you apply the appliance you can use latex or pros-aide, you can trim the piece to match your forehead or use a wig or nylon stocking or my favorite a bald cap. Onto the sprayable latex you will always have some clogging with latex but you can most definetly spray with minimal problems as long as your air pressure is not to high or to low..Not trying to make this sound like a sales pitch but with our sprayable latex you just add your paint and pour into your gun, this latex has virtually no fillers just straight latex and when it drys it can have a semi translucent look to it which is great for a natural layering effect, and if you do not add paint it is 100% translucent.
08-31-2008, 11:48 AM
Thanks Jason, Kevin.....
That makeup is on my daughter. I have three daughters and the wife so I pickup a lot of women's costumes. So, no dresses on me... besides, at what I look like I would be terrified to think of who wore a dress that fits me... but if I could FIND one... well.... I could be SO much scarier than the original owner.....
The mask was applied with just spirit gum. I have used pros-aid (prosthetic adhesive) and medical adhesive before, but even in a haunt I wouldn't for something slip latex. Spirit gum works fine and is a hell of a lot easier to remove than one of the stronger adhesives. The pros-aid works great on something you want to move 100% with your actor. Though, for Creatures Crypt the guy who did the video Larry posted and was our theme character only wore pros-aid for the video we shot for the event. Every night of the year it was spirit gum for him... and he did nothing but crowd interaction all night long.
I wanted to add is that this makeup took about 30 minutes and you could get it to the 20 minute range for a haunt. So 4 - 8 of these a night per makeup artists.
Before the actors hit makeup.....
1 - Have your actor pre-cut the slip latex to fit their faces before the show.
2 - Have the actors apply the spirit gum, wait for it to tack up, and then put it on their faces. (this step is better if they work in pairs)
At makeup (and this is exactly my steps to do what I did. The order is as I did it, but probably not "right" as I should have looking back on it.)
1 - Mehron liquid gray and a sponge. Coat the mask on the actor getting into all the cracks. Wipe the excess off and use it to coat the actors ears, neck and hairline. Use a wet sponge to wash off the everything on the highlights. Just makeup in the cracks and a tint on the mask.
2 - Mehron liquid green and a sponge. Semi-Coat the mask on the actor getting into all the cracks that look good. Wipe the excess off and use it to blot into the actors ears, neck and hairline. Use a dry towel to wipe off the everything on the highlights. Leave more makeup this time... it should looked witchy green.
3 - Mehron Blithe Spirit and a sponge. Fast hit the highlights in a blotting motion. Go light on the makeup, this is just to show you the highlights. Note, this is a tapping motion with a very small amount of makeup on the sponge.
4 - Just a dark red makeup in on the eye. Add some blood here and there, and drip the eye into the mask cracks.
5 - Just black makeup with a medium fine brush. Its in on the other eye, the cracks of the face to highlight (the scowl for this one and some face cracks), and around the tore out eye wound for depth. Work the depth points in the mask not totally killing the first steps. I blotted all the extra out and pushed some of it into the mask with a clean sponge.
6 - Mehron Blithe Spirit and a sponge. Fast hit the highlights in a blotting motion. This time you are making all the highs in the mask pop. Get around the ugly eye and the good eye, this piece is all eyes. Note, this is a tapping motion with a very small amount of makeup on the sponge. Finish it off...
7 - Blood and puss up the wound with some home made ickies....
Why this long list? Because it really isn't days or hours to make something like that or a ton of cash. Those pieces from Screamline Studios are $6.50, Mehron Liquid is $7.60 for 4.5 oz, and the other makeup maybe $7 a container, spirit gum is maybe $15 for it and remover in a good size bottle. The blood and puss are home made from things in your kitchen like all blood is. And it all washes off with water... except the spirit gum, there is a remover for that. :)
With a little practice and a $150 investment you could have 10 of these pieces from Screamline (two per position) and do five people up like this a night in 20-30 minutes each. With one, two is better, makeup people.... there are MUCH better examples of this in the various haunt makeup videos from Screamline, Bodybagging, and others... just thought I would keep this out as something for haunts to think about to kick their show up a bit who don't so this today.
08-31-2008, 12:09 PM
One more thought..... I am not advocating only Screamline products. There are many excellent vendors in this space. I just happen to be really happy with the stuff I just got from Jason. The face in the profile is me and that is an FX Faces piece. There are TONS of great choices out there if you want to add to your actors this October!
08-31-2008, 04:53 PM
09-01-2008, 01:24 PM
Thanks for the info guys! You both helped answer a few questions my porthole of a brain has been saving.
09-01-2008, 01:53 PM
I have a question, Jason, or anyone, might be able to help with...
With foam latex (versus slip latex) masks / appliances when you use spirit gum instead of a prosthetic adhesive the crystallized spirit gum is nearly impossible to remove from the piece. In the end this seems to be just as destructive to the appliance as your sweat and abuse are. Is there a better way to prep a foam latex mask than a castor oil / sealer? Maybe a better adhesive that isn't medical / pros adhesive strong and hard to remove?
09-01-2008, 02:22 PM
I am a little lost on your question?? you make mention of castor oil/sealer?? are you refering to your paint mix?? And spirit gum is a no no in my book i have never liked it and never will.
Just my thoughts
09-01-2008, 03:57 PM
The question could be summed up as; "Spirit gum destroys foam latex fast, what else could you use other than the prosthetic adhesives?"
Since you don't like spirit gum, what do you use rather than spirit gum?
09-01-2008, 04:06 PM
If you do not want to use pros-aide and you do not want to use latex i would try telesis adhesive it kicks major ass but can be a little more expensive but works great, you can get it at most fx suppliers...
p.s the reason i brought up castor oil is i use it if i only have regular grease make up instead of rubber mask grease paint
09-01-2008, 04:13 PM
And to be honest almost all adhesives will rip the shit out of your foam appliances thats why they dont work good for us haunter, we want longevity out of our pieces, however you can try the sock mask idea using your foam appliance and it could last you a year or so..
P.s try it,talk to infoamtek and get some pieces off him hell maybe he has some seconds that are just laying around or maybe not???
09-01-2008, 04:55 PM
Thanks for the advice. I have used telesis as well and, yep, they all rip the shit out of foam latex unless you are super careful when you remove your appliance. Even then, foam still dies with use.
I agree with you 100% on liking the better adhesives over spirit gum. I personally use pros-aid on myself. However, most actors I have worked with prefer spirit gum. That, and for most beginners spirit gum can be found at any store. So the remover is an easy pickup when you are out.
09-01-2008, 09:23 PM
I have found with Prosaid that Bond-Off is a good remover. When used properly it will aid in taking off the piece with minimal to no damage. It also has a nice orange smell. And I instilled into the actors that if they rip off the prosthetics without waiting for them to be properly removed, they get put into a rubber mask after that. That generally stops the ripping.
09-01-2008, 09:47 PM
I dont know if you saw mine (Grannys) makeup for the costume contest at MHC but Jason used the Airbrush Latex for the wrinkling effect and it actually worked out really good.
Is there anyway i can get some of that Airbrush latex or are you out for the season buddy?
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