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Nightgore
10-29-2008, 07:26 PM
Hey guys,

Got some questions about air brushing..

-What is the BEST kit/set-up to use for air brushing make-up for haunts? Best make-up?

-Where can I find some good videos/books to assist me in learning air brushing?

-What's a normal cost for a kit and supplies? How much could I go through a season?


Thanks in advance! -Tyler

screamline studios
10-29-2008, 07:33 PM
Tyler,

I am sure that there are many make-up artists way better than me when it comes to using the airbrush!!! but i am sure i could give my two cents worth!! give me a call soon, (440)205-0111

your friend,

Jason

Nightgore
10-29-2008, 07:48 PM
Thanks Jason, I'll give you a call sometime! -Tyler

dr0zombie
10-29-2008, 08:27 PM
A lot of what you are asking is subjective and also an insane huge topic.


I am not an amazing airbrush artist but I have been using one to do fast makeup for the last six or seven years. I also trained about a dozen people running though the makeup room of CreaturesCrypt over my stay there.

Lets start with, you can do GOD work with an airbrush, haunts don't really allow that. For example these two girls are nothing special at all. But they wanted their role to be in makeup. All they do is lineup guests wearing a robe. So you can do what I did to them in maybe 2 -3 minutes end of the night fast blast faces. The point here is low light so they are not just people under the hood. Seriously, this is like a 3 minute job. You do them as they line up and run out. For places with tour guides you can do this kind of half-a@@ makeup on them and do 15+ in 45-60 minutes with even a newly trained makeup artists. http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/25/103/1013540976/n1013540976_30193081_5834.jpg


...and of course its a good tool to add to your other makeup to break up your shit. It keeps you from just using a brush, or just using a sponge. Different tools force different styles from your hand.... http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-snc1/v341/25/103/1013540976/n1013540976_30193072_7354.jpg

Don't get me wrong, you can do great things with an airbrush. When you spend more time though, you usually use more than an airbrush.... If you want to see some creative airbrush work there were a few very tallented younger people working for Rocky Point Haunted House that did some very cool work. Their crew had a very nice shared style among them.

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For a haunt I would say get at least three (to five) guns per artist. Most should be bottom feed as they store more liquid and I like at least one gravity feed gun as I think I detail better with one. The idea here is to not have to change colors often as it takes time to clean out the gun and transition and you don't have time with a haunt. Skip the gravity feed for people that are just blasting with stencil.

Buy a decent gun, don't spend a mint. Really you don't need to spend over $100 a gun. Get a decent oil free compressor w/tank that won't run all the time. Don't buy a crap airbrush compressor. Make sure you have at least one (maybe one inline per line) moisture traps.

For lessons type in Airbrush into Google. There are tons of tutorials out there now from dagger strokes to people showing off their flame and skull skills. Personally, I love the Javier Soto Killer Clowns DVD.

A thread on airbrush makeup from here - http://www.hauntworld.com/haunted_house_forums/showthread.php?t=2843&highlight=airbrush

Your last question on consumables is related to the skill of your artists and the quality of product. I have been sick a single night and had three artists go through a seasons worth of makeup on a Saturday. We are talking a few gallons of Mehron. The only way to know for sure is to do some test makeups for what you want and get a guess on what you used.




You can email me with other questions.... I would love to know what secrets Jason might have. On that note, I have seen more than one photo of an airbrush artist in HauntWorld, or on those specials. Where are all the badass makeup people for the top 13?? Lets here the tricks guys & girls!!!


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beardedbil
10-29-2008, 08:41 PM
Personally I would suggest Temptu make-up for airbrushing, best around you will find and its alcohol based so it wont just sweat off... Find them at www.temptu.com (http://www.temptu.com)

Check out their Dura Inks: http://shop.temptu.com/c-146-dura-inks.aspx

dr0zombie
10-29-2008, 08:53 PM
Bill,

I did not realize any haunts had a need to use pro pallets and spend that kind of money. I mean, its not for the guy on a budget. Even at a mid to small size event like CreaturesCrypt we would have gone through a hundred dollars plus of this a night at 12$ or more an ounce. Is this something you end having to use when you get to hotter Octobers further south? What event are you guys using this stuff for?

- K

beardedbil
10-29-2008, 09:07 PM
Well I have tried quite a few different airbrush mediums and I just don't feel that others cover very well. For example pick a yellow from Graftobian and then pick a yellow from temptu, and try to cover a face, completely cover it... It will take me 5 seconds and one shot with temptu. With Graftobian and others i have to keep spraying and spraying to finally cover the face, and even then its just a muted color in my opinion. Again I believe if you can afford it, go for it. Your absolutely correct its expensive but I think worth it overall.

dr0zombie, I know Headless Horseman uses temptu, I use to pal around with a makeup artist there, and she did some amazing work with temptu.
Here is some examples:
http://stuff.janedoemakeup.com//gallery/s3/media/AA9.jpghttp://stuff.janedoemakeup.com//gallery/s3/media/HHH20.jpg

dr0zombie
10-29-2008, 09:11 PM
I have talked with one of the Headless Horseman other makeup artist online and I have to say the work he had sent me of theirs was also amazing. They seem to have a very talented crew working for them.

Nightgore
10-29-2008, 09:27 PM
WOW... thanks for all the info and for the pics! This is really helping! -Tyler

The Doctor
10-29-2008, 11:41 PM
With all the guns out there and accessories it's easy for someone to get lost...as in me. I was wondering what guns people suggest and what accessories you recommend having. I am really interested in getting into airbrushing makeup and could use all the info yall are willing to offer.

Barry
10-30-2008, 05:43 AM
Guns - Iwata Eclipse

Makeup - Mehron liquid makeup thinned to go through the guns

Nightgore
10-30-2008, 07:58 AM
How do you thin the make up, water? Alcohol? Something else? Thanks for the tips! -Tyler

beardedbil
10-30-2008, 08:36 AM
I find thinned make up will eventually clog your airbrush and you will spend more time and aggravation cleaning it then just spending a few extra bucks on make up made for airbrushing. Just a personal opinion.

Infoamtek
10-30-2008, 10:54 AM
Makeup Artist Magazine has two great articles on air brush makeup in their back issues. It might be worth it to get these old issues.

GothycDesigns
10-30-2008, 12:20 PM
Makeup Artist magazine is great. Has a lot of tips. they cover mainly film related and fashion makeup. They really try to make room for more special effects and gorey stuff from time to time. Their main office is just up the street from me here in Vancouver, WA.

As a suggestion, some may know, but just in case. Check out this site

www.theeffectslab.com is a makeup amd maskmaking related forum. alot of great info and pros on their always helpful and give great advice.

also check out HorrorShow magazine, its mainly a masking making mag. but has great tips on airbrushing as well.

Barry
10-30-2008, 12:35 PM
Mehron makes a thinner but personally I used distilled water. As for clogs, I do not have any problems. I think it has more to do with the guns than anything else.

dr0zombie
10-30-2008, 04:04 PM
My personal choice for haunt work is same as Barry. I use the Iwata Eclipse and Mehron liquid with some Garfotbian in there from time to time. (I like the corpse colors from Graftobian. ) I will say I started with the Paasche and Vegas, so you can spend less on a gun and still do fine. You don't have to jump into the Iwata from day one. But if you are doing this and set, your spending the cash. Hands down, the Iwata Eclipse is the best bang for the buck I have used.

As for a Mehron mix, how much mixing liquid to liquid makeup, you can search the effects lab forum and find the mix out there. Its basically 1/3 or 1/4 thinner to your liquid makeup. For me I never thin with water or Mehron thinner, it makes it rub off. You can mix the makeup with other products and actually make it set and even be semi-waterproof. This gives you the advantage of using the low cost Mehron with the stick of more high end makeup. Trust me, you have to work at removing it the way I mix it. :)

Infoamtek
10-30-2008, 04:43 PM
Here is a formula for turning Kryolan Aqua Colors into airbrush makeup.
http://www.fxwarehouse.info/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Category_Code=Recipes
Remember to sift any colors like this through a paint screen before using. And for safety's sake, use less than ten pounds of air pressure when spraying makeup on human skin.

Nightgore
10-30-2008, 06:31 PM
Thanks for the all the helps guys, this is awesome!

Dr. Oz,

What and how do you mix it? ;) PM me if you can! -Tyler