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nzanesmith
02-16-2009, 10:29 PM
I remember reading a few weeks ago about someone wanting an arcade game type prop with cctv and a trigger for a prop for customers to use. So i had some free time today and got to thinking about how it would be done and came up with a few ideas and what not so... Would there be interest in a coin/free operated arcade style cabinet with a monitor and a button that would trigger for example an air cannon or water cannon either in the haunt or in the que line or even in an ajacent arcade game.... I could go as fare as actually printing up some panel art for the sides and front or just paint them black. If I can continue to get interest in the other post/products and this one and possible a few orders I would probably make the effort to build a few examples and head to TW with them but as this is just a free time project for me now I couldn't justify the expense of the conference without some prior interest/sales. Let me hear your thoughts either her or via pm. Orders gladly welcome as well.

Nick

tchaunt
02-17-2009, 08:29 PM
I probably wouldn't be able to buy the props, but I really like the idea where pressing a button would cause an effect somewhere in or around the haunt go off. That would be really cool to add.

nzanesmith
02-17-2009, 11:50 PM
depending on what all you wanted it wouldn't be very expensive. As I'm doing this for fun, not supporting myself with it I would only charge materials plus enough to cover lunch and maybe a tad for my time. Basically if all you needed was the "game" ie. cabinet, trigger, and monitor i could probably manage at around $200 ad the camera ad prob around $50ish add an air cannon as low as $100 for my cheap (economical) model. So for around $350ish you could have a black arcade cabinet with a monitor, trigger and power supply, camera and small air cannon with all the wiring and power supplies. Now that price is by no means set its just a rough estimate. If that sounds reasonable or you want to talk it over and see if we can work something out please PM me. There are ways we can get that price down a bit.n (thrift store items) rather then new monitors would make it cheaper for me to build and therefore cheaper for you to buy. I of course thoroughly test everything I build and will not ship a product until it meets my satisfaction for quality and reliability. So im willing to go as simple and cheap as you need to or as over the top and flashy with all sorts of bells and whistles as you can afford to go.

Monster-Tronics
02-18-2009, 02:53 AM
A scare kiosk machine is nothing new, Ghostride has sold one for years. Not sure if they still sell it.

If your looking to show at Transworld your going to have to charge more then $20 over your costs because even if you sell several, that wouldn’t even cover the cost to rent the booth carpet from Transworld let alone all of the other costs to do business there like:

Booth fee
Travel
Hotel
Food
Freight
Carpet
Chairs
Tables
Tablecloths
Power
Air
Warehouse fee's
Drayage
Certificate of insurance
Booth Shirts
Product Brochure
Business Cards
Price List
Order Forms
Credit Card processing fees
Banner
Booth Accessories
Booth Displays
Demo products
And the list goes on…………….

Regards,
Jeff Londos
Monster-Tronics
Innovators in Haunt Technologies
www.Monster-Tronics.com
See us in St. Louis at TransWorld’s National Haunt & Attractions
Show, booth 714, March 27th -29th 2009
Proud Member of the Halloween and Haunt Vendor Association
www.halloweenhauntvendors.com
www.youtube.com/MonsterTronics

Haunted Farm
02-18-2009, 08:43 AM
I would love this! And so would our customers. Please let us know your plans! If you are not going to take them to convention, email us back and let us know what the cost of this would be.:-D

nzanesmith
02-18-2009, 02:33 PM
A scare kiosk machine is nothing new, Ghostride has sold one for years. Not sure if they still sell it.

If your looking to show at Transworld your going to have to charge more then $20 over your costs because even if you sell several, that wouldn’t even cover the cost to rent the booth carpet from Transworld let alone all of the other costs to do business there like:

Booth fee
Travel
Hotel
Food
Freight
Carpet
Chairs
Tables
Tablecloths
Power
Air
Warehouse fee's
Drayage
Certificate of insurance
Booth Shirts
Product Brochure
Business Cards
Price List
Order Forms
Credit Card processing fees
Banner
Booth Accessories
Booth Displays
Demo products
And the list goes on…………….

Regards,
Jeff Londos
Monster-Tronics
Innovators in Haunt Technologies
www.Monster-Tronics.com
See us in St. Louis at TransWorld’s National Haunt & Attractions
Show, booth 714, March 27th -29th 2009
Proud Member of the Halloween and Haunt Vendor Association
www.halloweenhauntvendors.com
www.youtube.com/MonsterTronics

Thank you very much for that information. I did recall someone saying something about someone making them as well but figured I can do it as well. And as for those costs, those were all things I have taken into consideration and was well aware of. Which is why I would need a few sells or atleast some very strong interest before I forked out the cash to take it to TW. I would look at TW more as an advertising outlet with a potential for sales rather then just a sales outlet. You cant get better advertising then having a majority of your industry in one spot for a few days :-).

nzanesmith
02-19-2009, 11:41 PM
I just checked ghostrides website and couldn't find a similar product so I assume it would have to be a custom order from them now. I also did a bit of a web search and found nothing

Karl Fields
02-20-2009, 12:10 AM
TW 2002
New Products

Ghost Ride Productions, Inc. of Hollywood, CA, will be showcasing several new products developed and tested over the past Halloween season at the Chicago show. The development of the UA-Series controller represents a new breed in cost effective, field programmable controllers. This User Adjustable (UA) controller is factory programmed and allows the user to modify controlled variables though an LCD screen down to 0.01, (1/10th of a second). Multiple voltages can be used at once, along with several input and output terminals. After nine months of theme park field-testing, Ghost Ride Productions will present the Scare Blaster(TM) Interactive Kiosk. Constructed with many options and application variables, this themed kiosk allows for guest interaction within the Dark Attraction environment and can be set up for coin operation. Ghost Ride Productions will also be introducing Cobwebs in a Can(TM), the newest concept to dark attraction set decorating. This 17-ounce spray aerosol produces a dull, cream-colored web that is non-flammable, very durable and is applied in seconds. Visit www.ghost-ride.com for streaming video and current pictures of their latest products in development.

nzanesmith
02-20-2009, 12:38 AM
TW 2002
New Products

Ghost Ride Productions, Inc. of Hollywood, CA, will be showcasing several new products developed and tested over the past Halloween season at the Chicago show. The development of the UA-Series controller represents a new breed in cost effective, field programmable controllers. This User Adjustable (UA) controller is factory programmed and allows the user to modify controlled variables though an LCD screen down to 0.01, (1/10th of a second). Multiple voltages can be used at once, along with several input and output terminals. After nine months of theme park field-testing, Ghost Ride Productions will present the Scare Blaster(TM) Interactive Kiosk. Constructed with many options and application variables, this themed kiosk allows for guest interaction within the Dark Attraction environment and can be set up for coin operation. Ghost Ride Productions will also be introducing Cobwebs in a Can(TM), the newest concept to dark attraction set decorating. This 17-ounce spray aerosol produces a dull, cream-colored web that is non-flammable, very durable and is applied in seconds. Visit www.ghost-ride.com for streaming video and current pictures of their latest products in development.

I dont deny that they did or still do make the product all I was pointing out was that it wasn't for sale on there site as of now.

nzanesmith
02-24-2009, 03:57 PM
Just got an order for an air cannon so later this month I will build a prototype of the haunted arcade game and get some prices pics and vids up. If you would like to order one sooner that would make me get it done faster :-) Rough dimensions so far are 2' x 2' by 6' tall plan was to make them as easily shipped as possible so at that size we can fit 4 on a standard pallet.

Thanks
Nick

Nightgore
02-25-2009, 11:18 AM
This is something that we are working on, trying to patent (stupid, freakin' process)... that we'll be doing at our event this year! Let me know how your stuff ends up! -Tyler

drfrightner
02-26-2009, 05:43 AM
Sorry for the interuption but a few people have sent me emails upset... we made a new policy that only our paid advertisers can use our message boards to sell products.

I understand you are new and maybe breaking into the business and we welcome you with open arms... we want more vendors, new vendors but we have vendors who help us pay to keep this site on line. Its unfair for others to use the site as a store so to speak.

At first I thought your posts where more of a how to type thing now I realize you are trying to sell products.

Anyway I hope you understand.

If you would like to contact me offline please send an email here: darkrides@sbcglobal.net

Lastly, yes Ghost Ride did sell an arcade type gag but you may be correct it is probably not on their website. If you didn't see it on their site and you haven't been to the show in the past there is no way you could have known so kinda unfair to blame you. I don't.

But they did do that gag.

Larry

nzanesmith
02-26-2009, 01:13 PM
Larry can you please provide me with a link or copy of this new policy as it is published for public viewing, thanks. I took a look in both the trading post for a sticky about this, the description of the trading post and the fright forum and saw no such obvious posting. This would be something of great importance to those other countless people that are not paid advertisers that are selling wall panels, masks costumes etc.

jason-x
02-27-2009, 08:57 AM
Would the air cannon you put in it be the one you talked about in a earlier post? If so I am interested in somthing like this.The price didnt sound too bad and even if I couldnt get on of the cabnets the cannon sounds awesome.lets talk I am interested

nzanesmith
02-27-2009, 12:59 PM
Would the air cannon you put in it be the one you talked about in a earlier post? If so I am interested in somthing like this.The price didnt sound too bad and even if I couldnt get on of the cabnets the cannon sounds awesome.lets talk I am interested


pm'ed you back.

jason-x
02-27-2009, 01:05 PM
how much for a cabnet and how much for a cannon?

jason-x
02-27-2009, 01:20 PM
just pm d back

jason-x
02-27-2009, 01:28 PM
hey stepping out but get back with me I am very interested in these thanks John

nzanesmith
04-02-2009, 06:41 PM
hey stepping out but get back with me I am very interested in these thanks John


Check your PM's i sent you another one a few days ago.

nzanesmith
04-05-2009, 04:02 AM
This is a quick google sketchup of what the haunted arcade game would look like.




http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d108/nzanesmith/CHAMBER.png

nzanesmith
04-29-2009, 09:29 PM
I finally go a hold of the suppliers for some of the parts and the price did go up a bit The final price will be 1700 + shipping and this includes the cabinet with everything installed and several small things I wasn't allowing for in my first guess price such as leg levelers, locks and hinges and trim. The 1700 includes a brand new air cannon (your choice of low profile or tank based), new monitor, coin mechanism and coin box, trigger button, new monitor, camera and wiring, power supplies and simple paint scheme (single color or simple design) If you would like to save a little you can opt to provide your own cannon and that will knock 300 off the price to 1400 or a used monitor will take off 100 or no monitor included will save 120. I'm more then willing to work with you on saving as many pennies as possible or building the baddest new toy you want. Other things that can be added are sound from the camera area, or a sound chip that plays a loop to attract customers, lighting options, fog machines, you name it we can fit it in there. Again your ready to go all in one package is 1700+ shipping.

Thanks
Nick

damon carson
04-30-2009, 09:38 AM
Ghost rides was just a plane wooden cabinet w monitor. Coin orperated but nothing real fancy about it. Im not sure but I dont think it had multiple scares and if it just used an air cannon you could really add or improve on that. You could dress up the cabinet for one making it more appealing to the customer. Add black lights strobes ect to draw attention to the game. Make it where it activates a prop or whatever. I think it would be cool to even add a air cannon within the game and after they give there scare they get a scare. LOL! Maybe you could activate scents like what Sinister Scents offers. There are limitless possibilities. I never actually seen Ghost Rides model in action so if it offers any other these other features I suggested great. It always seems someone has to say well it did have this or whatever. If so great but I really dont care.
Thanks,
Damon

nzanesmith
04-30-2009, 01:42 PM
Thanks Damon, most of those ideas we already had covered, never thought about the scents though thats a great idea. We also had the idea of adding a fog machine and to surround the game with a creepy fog layer. We have tons of room inside the design to put just about anything the customer would like in terms of lights, sounds or special effects. As for the player getting a scare we had the idea that if you had a bank of these games at your event say 2-4 etc that one of the games would have a cannon in the bottom and a hidden camera above the monitor and those would be conected to the adjacent game so the friend actually scares the other friend when they think there getting someone inside the haunt. We also had the idea of a shock pad on the game surface to get that little bit more. Like I said originally these are all custom made so we can go as crazy as the customer wants or as simple as they need to save that all important dollar these days.

Nick

maliciousstudios
04-30-2009, 02:06 PM
If your looking to show at Transworld your going to have to charge more then $20 over your costs because even if you sell several, that wouldn’t even cover the cost to rent the booth carpet from Transworld let alone all of the other costs to do business there like:

Booth fee
Travel
Hotel
Food
Freight
Carpet
Chairs
Tables
Tablecloths
Power
Air
Warehouse fee's
Drayage
Certificate of insurance
Booth Shirts
Product Brochure
Business Cards
Price List
Order Forms
Credit Card processing fees
Banner
Booth Accessories
Booth Displays
Demo products
And the list goes on…………….

Regards,
Jeff Londos




AND THEY WONDER WHY THE INDUSTRY DOENT HAVE TO MANY ( NEW ) VENDORS.... I HAVE BEEN ASKSED IF I WOULD EVER BECOME A SHOW VENDOR ( MANY ) TIMES.... I DONT KNOW....

I LOOK AT THE LIST AND IT JUST MAKES MY STOMACH TURN.....

( WANNA KNOW WHY THE INDUSTRY HAS HAD SUCH A HARD TIME MOVING FORWARD > ? ) JUST READ THE LIST.... IVE HEARD HORROR STORIES FROM VENDORS THIS YEAR ABOUT STUFF GETTING DAMAGED, ETC. YEAH I JUST DONT NEED THAT HEADACHE.

Ken Spriggs
04-30-2009, 03:58 PM
How about a fog additive so when it is done doing whatever.....you can have it backfire on the customer using the machine.....and have it smell like they fried the electronics inside

nzanesmith
05-01-2009, 07:18 PM
easily done with a small fog machine and scents. If you want it it can be done, no problem.