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Motograter
03-17-2009, 04:05 PM
Hey guys, so I bought this mist/rain machine from Oak Island. I've been testing it out and it seems like a great prop. So my question is, anybody else here have the same thing and how do YOU use it? Because I am worried about the standing water and puddles that this thing is going to produce on the pathway. I never thought about this problem until I recieved it LOL. My plan is to use it inside our graveyard room this year.

oakhillshaunterTHEFEAR
03-17-2009, 05:51 PM
If you have real soil in that grave yard room and the flow of water is too high then it shouldn't be a problem from night to night. Vincent This Time!

UnDeRTaKer313
03-17-2009, 06:22 PM
ive thought the same thing about there maggot dropper. cause it shoots down water as well.
No idea what you would do inside

Motograter
03-17-2009, 06:26 PM
If you have real soil in that grave yard room and the flow of water is too high then it shouldn't be a problem from night to night. Vincent This Time!

Are you saying to put down soil on the path? But then it would create mud and people would be tracking mud throughout the haunt.

dusty588
03-17-2009, 08:33 PM
I think he means, if you plan on having real soil in the scene, that if the water flow is not high, you shouldn't have a problem.

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N2SPOOKINU
03-17-2009, 08:46 PM
Bill you might try that artificial grass they sell. It should stand up tall enough to let the water run under it. I dont know if it would work but you might give it a try.
Greg
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HouseOfHorrors
03-17-2009, 09:33 PM
Yeah... I've got one of those in my rainforest.... The floors were soaked... you can turn the mister and drip heads and they will slow down the output... but yes you are going to have a WET area if you use these! we had dark carpeting down that absorbed most of the water so people wouldnt slip and we would just use a wet vac to suck it up at the end of the night!

-Tim

Motograter
03-17-2009, 09:52 PM
Yeah... I've got one of those in my rainforest.... The floors were soaked... you can turn the mister and drip heads and they will slow down the output... but yes you are going to have a WET area if you use these! we had dark carpeting down that absorbed most of the water so people wouldnt slip and we would just use a wet vac to suck it up at the end of the night!

-Tim

I have a feeling that this is what we are going to have to do.

Tom
03-18-2009, 06:14 AM
I would suggest a rubber mat with holes in it that commercial sites use. They allow drainage but keep people out of puddles. Attached is a pic of what I'm talking about. You might find cheaper mats on ebay.
Hope this helps.

Tom

Motograter
03-18-2009, 08:48 AM
I would suggest a rubber mat with holes in it that commercial sites use. They allow drainage but keep people out of puddles. Attached is a pic of what I'm talking about. You might find cheaper mats on ebay.
Hope this helps.

Tom

Hey thanks Tom, I got those at work and they do work well. I'll keep these in mind

gadget-evilusions
03-18-2009, 09:07 AM
Does your building have any floor drains? If you could get your wet scene near a floor drain, and use the industrial floor drainage mats, you'd be set.

xtremecreator
03-18-2009, 09:26 AM
We tried everything stated above...no good....we tried rubber matts the whole 9 yards. This is what you do. WOOD MULCH WALKWAYS. The more wet it gets the more stable the walking surface. It absorbs all the water.

We did have floor drains every 8 ft but they did not drain because the mulch would eventually clog them no matter how well you tried to screen them. You want at the very least 4 to 6 inches. We bordered the mulch walkway with railroad ties. Re- Rake daily....keep a pile of mulch on hand to cover over the surface each day .

Our indoor rain forest was on almst continuesly thoughout the entire month. We had to keep it raining because we had live trees, vines and plants that needed to be watered and it was the request of the fire dept. It was the only way they would let us do it. Our rain forest was 20,000 sq ft. Mulch is the best and most authentic looking way of doing it. Rubber matts, artifical grass and so on is just not real looking it takes away of what your trying to accomplish......

John

gadget-evilusions
03-18-2009, 10:02 AM
The only problem with wet mulch indoors is that it puts actors in the hospital after 3 weekends of mold and bacteria growth.

xtremecreator
03-18-2009, 10:17 AM
Come on Brian. You were there.... where was the mold? There is no mold if you take care of it and rake it out daily. READ ABOVE. You were there. HELLO! So who got sick? Since Im the one in control of the whole production who did that happen to??? None. Did not expect a comment like that from you.... Is there a problem?

John

gadget-evilusions
03-18-2009, 10:23 AM
No problems. I was just saying that water and organic matter in a dark enclosed space for 5 weeks or more is not a healthy thing for actors. That's all. No attatcks or anything intended.

xtremecreator
03-18-2009, 10:37 AM
Oh, I was wondering....we're good...no problems here. You guys all geared up for the Return of Nightmare in Painesville? If so wish you the best!

John

Motograter
03-18-2009, 10:49 AM
I don't see that being a major problem at our haunt since we tear everything down every year being that we don't have a permanent building yet.

damon carson
03-18-2009, 02:04 PM
Thats what I would suggest too non slip mats. Maybe somekind of drain system if feasable or able to do it affordably. You may have someone with push squeeges and mops to clean up in between groups but that would get old after a while. If you bought it from Oakisland they should give you pointers on the best way to use it. Or maybe you can just use it in an outdoor area or just outside your haunt maybe on asphault or concrete if there is any. You can put down non slip tape if it makes the surface slick.
Damon

mindtumor
03-18-2009, 02:08 PM
I can see it now, wet moldy mulch will have to be continously cleaned up after being tracked through out the haunt. How much water does this stupid thing put out? I have a great idea on how to do this without it dripping on people.

xtremecreator
03-18-2009, 03:01 PM
Wet mulch sticks together and the more its walked on the better the surface. You would be surprised how little getts kicked around.

It did not get tracked out in our haunt because the rain forest was the last room before exiting . Need to plan.....You dont want to exit the forest room then send them to another room with wet feet on smooth concrete or wood floors. They will slip. Plan..Plan...Plan

Jim Warfield
03-18-2009, 03:54 PM
I needed to make traction inside of the concrete exit tunel. I welded re-bar pieces close together to elevate the feet above the water. As an extra FX bonus standing water reflects from under the re-bar and some people assume they are walking over a deep watery pit.
Re-bar has those little grip castings, so far none of them have worn off(I don't think they will)
I would suggest thinking twice using water for an effect if you live in a northern climate.
I'm not sure but I think the formula for ice involves water.

damon carson
03-19-2009, 03:11 PM
Jim are your pm's full or is it just that time of the month?! LOL! Ive tried sending you a few about your haunted house stories and didnt get anything back. Stop ignoring me I know where you live! Brewhahaha!
Damon

SteveR
03-19-2009, 04:57 PM
We put down pallets (the stronger oak ones, not pine) to make a walkway in wet /muddy areas. Fill in the gaps with slats from other pallets - but not entirely, leave a little space for the rain to go thru.

Wet it down and test it for slipperieness. Sometimes the wood gets slippery. If so, take a skill saw, set the blade to just 1/8" +/-, and rake shallow cuts back and forth to rough up the slats.

A popular pallet size is 40" x 48", makes a good path.

nzanesmith
03-21-2009, 09:16 PM
what about a raised floor, just one or two inches with metal grating or the like and on top of that whatever type of ground you want... crushed gravel would drain well or the fake grass with holes in it. Have your floor slop slightly to one side and have a pvc drain to the out side or a collection area and recirculate the water