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maliciousstudios
03-23-2009, 09:10 AM
So, I see that 13th Hour Magazine is a sponsor of the show at the show in Saint Louis. I picked up my free copy at a show in the past, signed up for subscription, and havent heard hide nor hair of them since. I looked across the internet today to see if they have a website up yet and well... I came up drawing a blank. If I had to I would pay a subscription to recieve the publication but there isnt much information out there. Does anyone have any information on future issues of this publication and or subscriptions ?? ( Just curious )


Brian Halm
Malicious Studios

http://www.maliciousstudios.com

"Horror FX That Sticks To The Roof Of Your Brain !"

Jim Warfield
03-23-2009, 09:21 AM
in Haunted Attraction magazine. They show the covers for three issues, past, present or future?

Jonathan
03-23-2009, 10:08 AM
The 3rd Issue has been done and printed for some time now. THey are waiting to officially launch it at TW and have them there. **also be sure to look for the All-New RFR Ad I designed in it. LOL**

maliciousstudios
03-24-2009, 05:57 AM
Awesome I cant wait to check it out.... RFR RAWKS.... now if I can just get me a new issue of 13th Hour. Its a nice publication from what I had seen... I think I might subscribe to Haunt World - dunno well see.

graystone
03-24-2009, 06:16 AM
I would love to see more! Also would love to see articles on haunt info as well! Shane and its its a big magazine make it bigger add the info! Shane this time.

Banshee
03-24-2009, 06:45 AM
In the fall issue, the address is

http://13thhourmagazine.com/ but I'm getting a broken link there..
They list a number for subscriptions

574 256 -6666

Hope that helps..I'm looking forward to the new issue!

maliciousstudios
03-31-2009, 08:19 AM
Hmmmm.... Yep broken link, were they at the Saint Louis show ??

WELL.... it was cool magazine while it lasted, shame.... Allot of us would have paid for a subscription...lol

creep house
03-31-2009, 12:20 PM
I guess u were not there Malic?

13th was there and a Big Hit........they sold alot subscips.
Their booth was always crowded...every time i walked by...

maliciousstudios
03-31-2009, 01:02 PM
DAMN.... or for those of you that understand ( OH BOB SAGGET ! ) <--- you tube it if you dont...lol

Yeah I heard they were going to be there, I will have to try that phone number listed earlier to subscribe thanks man....

No, I didnt go.... rewiring and reinsulating the shop.... figured I would try to get something done instead.

I will be going to the MHC ( That is IF they ever get more vendors...lol - "Short List" )

Yes, with the economy going to hell in a Longaberger basket.... I figure Id try to make those electric, heat, etc. bills a bit smaller. I enjoy what I do and plan to continue untill my last breath - ( Hopefully after that )

hauntedhousenut
03-31-2009, 01:42 PM
I guess u were not there Malic?

13th was there and a Big Hit........they sold alot subscips.
Their booth was always crowded...every time i walked by...

How many subscriptions did they really sell, wasn't the price $79.99 for four issues, compared to hauntworld and HAM that's steep.

maliciousstudios
03-31-2009, 01:46 PM
that doesnt mean much to me.... Hell have ya checked out the price for a subscription of Fangoria or say CFX ?? WOW.... they are high too....lol, I think they have the interest, I think they will sell subscriptions.... a bit pricey by I think its Coffee Table Quality. I do hope to see more articles and LESS photos even though Icing ON THE CAKE WOULD BE NICE TOO....

graystone
03-31-2009, 01:47 PM
Its a big magazine and I am sure shipping is steep! I look forward to my magazines and to see how they help the industry! Shane and its $79.99 Shane this time!

Jolly Pumpkin
03-31-2009, 01:51 PM
What's $80 when you have haunts spending upwards of $50,000 or more at the tradeshow. It's a very high quality magazine with some great articles. Obviously a lot of companies support the magazine since there are many ads inside.

creep house
03-31-2009, 04:13 PM
over 200 subscriptions....................

maliciousstudios
03-31-2009, 04:21 PM
wow 16 g's in subscriptions over the weekend in Saint Louis....thats awesome.... Who get that kind of sales at 79.99 per subscription.... thats awesome !....

----> Insert Applause Here <----

Barry
03-31-2009, 08:13 PM
I will be going to the MHC ( That is IF they ever get more vendors...lol - "Short List" )



Not to hijack the thread but I am waiting for your vendor registration. :) Many vendors were waiting to see what happened in St. Louis before committing to other shows. The show floor is filling now and I expect many more to be on board soon.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread...

maliciousstudios
03-31-2009, 08:23 PM
Hell yeah, I hope to see DOUBLE the vendors at MHC.... I cant wait !! You will surely have MY registration SOON ! We will be attending a few seminars and definetely the haunt tour !! As far as Registering as a vendor.... I dont know if Im up for it ( Quite yet ) possibly next year.... Id love to well see !!

SHELDON
03-31-2009, 09:31 PM
"Bitch! I love you."

drfrightner
04-01-2009, 02:13 AM
13th Magazine: They didn't have a new magazine at the show that I do not understand considering the importance of this show. Whenever someone is going to hand over $80.00 you better feel good about getting what you paid for. You must also make sure that magazine is providing you what you want out of a magazine. Does it help your business? Does it entertain you if its not a magazine that helps your business? You have to judge for yourself if $80.00 or 80 cents makes it worth it to you.

Personally I did not subscribe and would not because it wouldn't fit into my mailbox... LOL. No seriously I would not subscribe because at this point I would not see the value to my business. There is so many magazines coming to me in the amusement industry, like Fun World, Park Work, Tourist Parks and Attractions and so on and so forth. I don't need anymore. Save the trees...LOL

Seriously though I would say this... I have seen the magazine and do not think the information inside is very valuable to a haunt owner, it does have nice photos and the layout is nice. Although $80.00 is a lot of money more than any other magazine, video, seminar series or any other form of information offered in this industry, I've said before people must invest into education. It must be part of your budget and don't be afraid to buy things you feel add to your experience to run a first class business.

I do not think $80.00 is a lot of money for education or a magazine subscription. Is Hauntworld Magazine worth $40, $80, $1000 or even $5000 to your business. If a magazine saves you from making a mistake, or helps you advance your business or anything between it was worth whatever those things are worth to you or saves you, blah, blah.

You can't put a price on information, education, especially GOOD INFORMATION or GOOD EDUCATION!!!!!!!!! That right there is the key!

So with that said although I think 13th Hour doesn't provide much or any good information to a haunt owner at least not for myself, but that doesn't mean it won't or will in the future. Any magazine, any source, or any entity could have the next big scoop of info for your business. So again $80.00 for me that wouldn't be the reason I did or didn't subscribe...it just isn't that much if you value the information they provide.

So if you value the information they provide you should subscribe...the cost shouldn't keep you from doing so. If Transworld set up a seminar series and charged $400.00 for one seminar should the cost keep you from going? NO WAY... if you feel the content from that seminar would help your business you should go with flying colors.

Cost shouldn't be the reason you do or don't...base everything on what that product or service means to you personally.

BARRY...

Call Patti!

Larry

maliciousstudios
04-01-2009, 04:17 AM
Boy, that was an awefully long post...but then again I think Larry was trying to convince everyone again that Haunt World in the better publication. Hmm, I wonder who owns that? There are plenty of expensivemagazines out there... CFX, Fangoria, etc. but a magazine ( in my opinion is entertainment ) All of them are good...13th is a good coffee table type mag. I like them al I don't think any certain mag will be the savior and deliver u from your problems....l....

I read Larrys magazine as well as all of the rest on the toilet, I have a library in there don't we all ?

I wish they would publish an article about a solution to my legs falling asleep....lol, ( Damn ) I always llimp my way out...one of these days I will be having a heart attack and my wife will think ( Oh jeeze, there he goes again...)

graystone
04-01-2009, 06:32 AM
The price of HauntWorld will be going up to $529.99 this year for a subscription!!!! Shane and its OMG LMAO I had to do it I just had to!! Shane this time!

Slain
04-01-2009, 07:43 AM
These all are great resources for finding stuff you need for your haunt. If your thinking that paying for a subscription is going to help your business your dead wrong..
How many people are coming to your haunt (unless they are in the haunt business), that has seen an article about your place.. You can't just pick them up at the newsstand at Wal-Mart or even most book stores. You would need to put an article in Fangoria or Rolling stone to get any bang out of your buck..
So if your wanting to produce an article about your haunt pay for it, then sit back and wait on how many people outside of this business comes into your place.
Your customer never sees any of this stuff...
Our haunt has been approached many times about doing an article about our place, oh by the way I need $3000 for that article and hey will you write it and send pictures..
Why in the hell would anyone want to do this. You would want an independent person to come through your place, write the article based on what experiance they have and take pictures/video.. Never believe all you read or see in a magazine (except playboy)

graystone
04-01-2009, 07:52 AM
You are EXACTLY RIGHT! YOU HIT THE HEAD ON THE NAIL! Even my big mouth could have not said that better! Unless we can get HauntWorld, Haunted Attraction and 13th in the big retail markets were just limited to our own Industry. Dont get me wrong its great that we can ourselves read about other haunts in the Industry but the buck starts and stops there. The outside world will never see those articales. Shane and its nothing more can be said period! Shane this time!

Slain
04-01-2009, 08:05 AM
After looking over at the 13 hour magazine and hearing that people paid X number of dollars for a subscription I'm like wow how can I go out and sell a magazine that promotes to no one but ourselves.. HMMMM..
That goes for all of them. Great for a referance bad for advertising your event...

drfrightner
04-01-2009, 12:20 PM
Hauntworld has never and will never charge ANYONE for featuring them in the magazine. We have a new and exciting directions for our magazine where we do ask the owners to write artcles to be side supporting aricles for their feature article which we write. If you look at the newest Hauntworld magazine you'll see that there are seveal HOT side articles like the control room, and stuff like that. Only the owners know this information so we have them write it.

I think that is a benefit to the industry and the readers!

We typicallly have the owners supply photos of their attractions as well although for some of the haunts I took them myself. Just depends.

Yes but paying to be featured is well not really being featured!

Larry

MMManiac
04-01-2009, 12:42 PM
Larry, any chance of hauntworld mag showing up at Barns and Nobel?

drfrightner
04-01-2009, 12:58 PM
No because I feel like HW mag is an industry TRADE magazine with TRADE secrets... if we did that wouldn't some haunt owners be pissed at me letting the cat out of the bag so to speak.

I think 13th House should have no problem doing a Barnes and Noble and personally I think that would be great if he did... that would promote our industry. That magazine to me is a fan magazine, pretty pictures, light on content but busting at the seems with visual content that promotes Halloween in general.

So I think they should I think that would be great.

Just not Hauntworld magazine.

Larry

scareshack
04-01-2009, 02:50 PM
...edit.....

SHELDON
04-01-2009, 03:41 PM
[QUOTE Whenever someone is going to hand over $80.00 you better feel good about getting what you paid for.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes ur just askin for it.

damon carson
04-01-2009, 04:35 PM
So for $80.00 how many times a year does this thing print?
Damon

Banshee
04-01-2009, 07:08 PM
They said at the table that it was for four issues...I picked up a form to subscribe, but haven't decided if I'm going to or not. Even though I'm an artist & like the pretty pictures, I like magazines with a bit more 'meat'...bloody meat..:cool:

(I did finally subscribe to Hauntworld..:D)

Jim Warfield
04-01-2009, 07:30 PM
To be spent in this order: Coffee, then the table, then a magazine to hold the table down. (Dam seances!)
While you are here would anyone like a subscription to "The Jim Warfield & Scream" haunted by nature magazine?
It's $300.oo a year, two issues (cazuontheight!), drawn by hand and colored in by hand created on the finest non-museum quality brown paper bag that doubles as a scary hand puppet(it's like a center fold out sort of thing)
It won't hold down a coffee table but it does control a lap tray.

maliciousstudios
06-23-2009, 11:52 AM
I dont mean to bash 13th Hour magazine, but I stopped by their booth to speak with them and well ....they have no recolection of ever offering the 2nd issue for free ? ( AND ) they cant seem to remember my subscribtion....hmmmm, okay moving on..... well atleast I have my Fangoria subscription....lmfao

Raycliff Manor
06-23-2009, 03:21 PM
Sorry to go off topic a little here but Jim, if you ever produce a magazine, I want the first copy and I want it signed!

Kel

drfrightner
06-23-2009, 04:07 PM
I dont' understand it either ... I thought it was suppose to be free all the time. They went to all these tradeshows and handed them out now they want you to pay for them I think they have confused some people. I know based on what I've been told they give a lot of the ads away for nothing...this is what I've been told.

I bet a lot of the money they want for the subscription goes to shipping it must be expensive to ship that thing. Personally and its just my own opinion the magazine offers very little to a professional haunt owner. To me the magazine seems like nothing but artices on vendors used to persude them to advertise. The articles about cooking or how they make the cover or whatever doesn't help my business.

I would not subscribe myself because I don't have the time to read all the magazines I get now for NOTHING!!! I get them from IAAPA, TAP, Park World, Bowling, some Rec magazine and they all come for nothing. Who's got time to really read all of that... typically I flip through and throw them away.

The magazine is big with big pictures but myself as an owner of a haunt do NOT want to read about vendors... that doesn't help my business, and I'm not going to PAY to read some vendors life story! I'm only interested in learning about things I didn't already know, I'm interested in learning new ways to grow my business not articles about making cookies.

I will be the first to admit that magazine has a lot to offers the Halloween enthusiast and think if it was marketed to that crowd opposed to haunt owners it would be better recieved.

There are more Halloween home haunt enthusiasts probably 100 to 1 than haunters...if I had that magazine that is the direction I would go! But I don't run their magazine. It is very well layed out and organized just for me a haunt owner the content is nothing I would pay for when I have 10 or more magazines sending to my home for nothing.

Larry