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TALA
04-19-2009, 02:54 PM
What do you guys think of this building? I believe it was built in the early 1900's and was a real TB hospital.

1 thing I'm not lacking is places to put haunted houses.

Plan on using 3.5 floors with a staging/makeup area on the 2nd floor.

http://www.theasylumwv.com/tb/13.jpg

http://www.theasylumwv.com/tb/35.jpg

http://www.theasylumwv.com/tb/14.jpg

http://www.theasylumwv.com/tb/40.jpg

maliciousstudios
04-19-2009, 03:38 PM
WOW, nice building....but its gonna take ALLOT of work.... Congrats !!

Terrorknight
04-19-2009, 03:55 PM
It looks like a great place for a haunt, I just can't believe that you can use it from a safety aspect.

BruiseMuse
04-19-2009, 06:31 PM
Impressive location, but I am shocked there there aren't health hazards there. I know an old Cleveland hospital that had been a TB hospital decades ago had to be demolished due to the biohazard risk, along with the asbestos that was used throughout the building.

Badger
04-19-2009, 06:50 PM
Really cool...what would something like that cost?

Jim Warfield
04-19-2009, 07:00 PM
Hospitals are germy places but I heard that after the patients leave the germ count goes way, way down. It's those nasty petree-dish humans mucking up the atmosphere moreso than anything contageous left sticking to the laundry chute. (But I would not recomend putting customers down that chute.)
Asbestoes? Well it was a commonly used and over-used product way back when. I once read that there are two different kinds of asbestos and that the one kind is far less hazardous to human health, how you tell them apart? I don't know.
If asbestoes was as deadly as it is always made out to be I would not be alive, my Father would have died 60 years ago, before I was born and my aunts and grandparents would have all died a long time ago. (My one aunt died around 90 and my other aunt is still living near 90 now.)
The reasons for these last statements are because when my Dad and his sisters were kids during the 1930's, my Grandfather would have asbestoes "Partys", dumping bags of the white-death into a tub, mixing it with water to make it paste and the whole family would smear it onto the sides of those old furnaces, using their hands, there were no masks, ventillators or probably ventillation.
They made enough paste to cover a boiler or furnace with it several inches thick.

aghast
04-19-2009, 08:51 PM
Looks like a state psychiatric hospital. Ours was in far better shape than that and they tore it down.

It's definitely got a creepy aura about it.

Maybe if you could turn it into a haunted attraction it might help prevent such a wonderful old building from being torn down.

Good luck!

Howie Slobber Erlich
04-20-2009, 06:24 AM
Unless Tala is a millionaire, this is a bunch of BS. Just from those few pics I can tell you that this building would take hundreds of thousands of dollars to bring up to code. No city would allow anyone to use this building for a haunt. Between the safety & structual issues, there is no way that that is gonna happen.

Howie "Slobber" Erlich
Deadly Intentions Haunted House
www.deadlyintentionshaunt.com

JamBam
04-20-2009, 07:08 AM
Germs, asbestos, code, LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION

The germs, asbestos and code can be overcome or answered.

However, it is over 100 miles from the nearest big town, south edge of Pittsburgh. The location is in one of our poorest and least populated states.

Do your market area research to find out if it will support your plans.

Good Luck

Motograter
04-20-2009, 08:43 AM
I didn't see any fire sprinklers in the ceilings. I always thought it was code for any haunt to have those.

Brandon_K
04-20-2009, 03:11 PM
Sprinklers depend on the state and age of the building (grandfathering, etc).

Our building is NOT sprinkled (we have a metric ass load of fire extingushers).

We have a 5000 sq ft maze and if we were to cover the make like we have in the past (via roof trusses and a gigantic tarp), we would have to sprinkle it because apparently then it becomes "enclosed". *rollseyes*

TALA
04-20-2009, 04:40 PM
As for any health concerns, much of the asbestos was removed for us by vandals who stole the copper pipe before we purchased the campus. We’ve sampled the building at least 3 times for asbestos and what we’ve located has been removed.

As for germs, they exist everywhere. The state continued to use this building to house MR patients for years without contamination problems. It was closed to all people either in the late 70’s or early 80’s. I’m not a doctor by any means but germs are not an issue (contacted the CDC just to be sure, waiting on a response).

As for structural damage, there isn’t any. Any damage is purely cosmetic and, in my opinion, simply adds to the atmosphere. We are currently trying to get this building added to the National Register of Historic Places. The building was built in the early 1900’s predating sprinklers. Trust me I will have enough fire extinguishers to put out the Hindenburg. We have many events on the property and have trained people in the use of fire extinguishers.

Additionally, there are at least 6 small colleges within 50 miles. Morgantown is only 55 miles north and the state capital about 2 hours south, plus we are 3 miles off a major interstate, I-79. Being in the center of WV we are 500 miles from the US population.

Last year’s haunt (our first haunted house) brought close to 10,000 people to our little town.

It isn't that I chose this location to put a haunted house. We purchased these buildings to save them from being torn down. The main building, The Trans-Allegheny Lunatic Asylum (a.k.a. The Weston State Hospital) is over 150 years old and contributed to the formation of the state of West Virginia.

Badger -- we paid 1.5 million for the entire campus in 2007. It consisted of 11 buildings and 300 acres of land. Here are a couple pictures that show most of the campus.

http://www.theasylumwv.com/tb/88.jpg

http://www.theasylumwv.com/tb/99.jpg

http://www.theasylumwv.com/tb/Weston_Hist_1940s_TBBLDG.jpg

Badger
04-20-2009, 09:03 PM
Again, way cool.

However, if you get it listed on the National Register, doesn't that mean you can NOT make any changes to the building? I book at a local music club and have asked the owner about getting his building on the list. He tells me he wouldn't even be able to rewire the sound system if it was listed due to stipulations about maintaining the historic quality of the structure.

Haunts of Richmond
04-20-2009, 09:29 PM
Wow, that place is amazing. Too bad it's almost 5 hours away from Richmond!

TALA
04-20-2009, 09:30 PM
Changes as in tearing down walls, replacing windows and the like. Major changes like that I wouldn't be making anyway. Putting in some wiring on the other hand wouldn't be a problem. Conduit runs all over the place in there. Something I'll have to check into for sure.

You've seen some of the old pictures, anything I do on the inside is a restoration...lol

So much work to be done yet...

Jim Warfield
04-20-2009, 11:09 PM
They tell you what 3 colors you may paint your building. Have to keep it authentic General Grant lived there just before the Civil War (of course he lived ALOT of places!)
When histerical restoration began in this town someone pointed out to me that the four people running it , trying to dictate to the rest of us, that not one of them personally owned any property here!? They either were renting or living in some relative's place.
Isn't that the way it goes?
The city drew a map of the historical houses in the historical district. Even though my house has alot of history and a huge wine cellar that map went around my house as if they thought it was contageous, but then the history of this house was not always pretty or made the newspaper in a good way, maybe?
Probably the only General who lived in this house was General Drunkeness a title worn by many frequenting the Inn.
So, since my house was NOT in the historical district I built the cupola on the roof, then later a man told me I was IN the district, they had changed the map. sorry, I saw a map that said I wasn't.
I think the cupola looks very good , proportional-wise and authentic. Unfortunately it inspired several other cuploas to be built in this county and most of them look way too tall because they needed to use modern windows, I guess?

TALA
04-21-2009, 01:25 PM
direct from the CDC.

"Thank you for your inquiry to CDC-INFO. In response to your request for information on how long tuberculosis (TB) can stay in the environment, we are pleased to provide you with the following information.

TB bacteria (germs) can remain viable in the air for several hours, depending on the environment. There is no evidence to support any risk from areas that functioned as TB hospitals years before.

TB is not spread through countertops, chairs, doorknobs, or other surfaces where a person with TB has been.

TB is spread through the air from one person to another. The germs are put into the air when a person with TB disease of the lungs or throat:
* coughs,
* sneezes,
* speaks, or
* sings.

For more information about TB, please visit the CDC website:"

no worries...;-)

thank you guys for expressing your ideas.

michilson
04-22-2009, 03:33 PM
There's another build like that too located just outside canonsburgh just outside pittsburgh in a industray park it was a old mental ward i think. I believe it's slated to be demolished but you might be able to find the developer and work out a deal!

The problem is pittsburghs already has at least 2 decent haunted house's one of which is 5th in the USA so pulling people from pittsburgh isn't going to be easy!

OdetteDespairr
04-24-2009, 12:04 PM
That is amazing, this is going to make a wonderful attraction once it gets up and running!

OdetteDespairr
Rotting Flesh Radio Haunt Hottie

Badger
04-24-2009, 12:38 PM
The building was JUST featured on Ghost Hunters this week...

TALA
04-24-2009, 12:49 PM
The woman in the Ghost Hunters episode is my little sister. The crazy hair runs in the family but saying the word awesome doesn't... lol

It actually aired last year April 31st I think. I hear out of all the episodes we are the 4th most haunted.

Gotta love TV.

Jim Warfield
04-24-2009, 11:48 PM
They asked me how big the house is? And how big were it's largest rooms?
My house was too small for them to place numerous cameras and sound equiptment in them.
I have a theory that ghosts usually don't show up to a crowd of people anyway.
The first time a local TV production was here the camera guy walked in with 90 pounds of freshly charged batteries hanging all around his body.
15 minutes later in the wine cellar the 90 pounds of full-charged batteries were dead.
Just "someone's " way of saying "Hi!"
"I sucked the life from your batteries, you will be next."

Faces appear in the patterns in the stone wall at he rear of the wine cellar, a digital camera picks them up when the human eye cannot. Then a while later we can't find that face again.?

This house is haunted , but not 24/7, I don't think anyplace could be. This is why I usually don't pay any attention to those kinds of TV shows. TV shows need rateings to remain profitable. Go for too many ghost humts without a ghost and it might be time to pack the cameras up and get out the Roto-Rooter again, Boys! (Seeking farts, the ghost of a turd!)