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HauntChris
05-01-2009, 11:21 PM
Ok, who's going to see H2 on August 28th, 2009? I'll go see it!

If you are interested, the trailer is now here at www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/15955

Darkangel
05-02-2009, 06:44 AM
This movie looks HORRIBLE! Rob is killing one of the best horror icons in history. Why does he have Myers walking around in a hoodie? Makes no sense and of course he still finds a way to get his wife in EVERY movie he does despite her lack of talent....

Darkangle

Darkblood
05-02-2009, 07:11 AM
I'll be seeing it.
Yeah, I'm kinda wondering about a few things like "Huh?" but I'll give it a shot.
I admit Zombie's movies are a little 'meh' after 1000 Corpses (which I loved after the first time I saw it on the big screen) but I can always whip out my original Carpenter Halloween DVD for the classic!

Kirk

Nightgore
05-02-2009, 07:19 AM
I think the movie looks awesome... it make Michael Myers... REAL! I hated the originals... no character, no story, and def. NOT SCARY!

I can't wait until this comes out! -Tyler

brad
05-02-2009, 09:34 AM
I'll deffinately be seeing this movie. I really like the trailer for it.

As far as Sheri Moon Zombie in it..... I'm thinking the Micheal is being haunted by her in his thoughts. Much like Jason was, and Ed Gein in the movie they made about him.


I think it's gonna be badass!

scarygoat
05-02-2009, 10:28 AM
Ya, I'll probably see it, but a few things look kinda weird. It looks like it's turning all demonic kinda. Lol, I geuss Michael's a gangsta now, with the hoodie and stuff, bustin caps on his lil sis.:cool:

damon carson
05-02-2009, 12:40 PM
This movie looks lame. Sorry to say. Halloween being my favorite movie and all. I hate to see it go this way. I thought I heard he wasnt even going to have this one in a hospital and now it looks like he is doing the movie almost exactly the same plus or minus his wife and the hoodie thing and the pentagram or whatever. I will go see it but I know I wont be satisfied. God just kill Lorie in this one and end it! This girl is no Jamie lee Curtis she is horrible!
Damon

Haunts of Richmond
05-02-2009, 01:25 PM
I thought I heard he wasnt even going to have this one in a hospital and now it looks like he is doing the movie almost exactly the same plus or minus his wife and the hoodie thing and the pentagram or whatever.


I'm pretty sure the hospital scenes are going to be just dream sequences (like the trailer). Don't quote me, though.

I'm on the fence with the mom tormenting Michael. We'll see. I enjoyed the director's cut of Zombie's remake of Halloween (the ending was much better)... the suits only made him change it so they could make a sequel (so says the rumor).

HauntChris
05-02-2009, 01:55 PM
H2 Photo Sets:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k181/myspacelinker/Halloween%20Related/RZH2/2egd2yt.jpg


http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k181/myspacelinker/Halloween%20Related/RZH2/caroline.jpg
Rob Zombie with Caroline Williams (The Texas Chainsaw Massacre Part 2).



See www.theblackbunny.blogspot.com - Create photos and some crappy quality video of Mane walking.


BTW, the new site is up for H2 Movie!
www.halloween2-movie.com

graystone
05-02-2009, 06:29 PM
Sometimes I wonder where you come from my friend! How in the world could you not like the classics? There is no way in swine flu that the classics can ever be out done! As far as Halloween.....

No character?...... Ummmm TYLER! His name is Michael Myers!!|
No Story?...... Its about a kid thats screwed in the head and as he growes up hes still screwed in the head! He kills his family and stalks his sister her whole life!!!
Not Scary?.... What can be scarier than a Sick-O stalking you night and day trying to kill you and you have to watch over your shoulder 24/7!

Tyler my friend HALLOWEEN WILL ALWAYS BE MY FAVORITE! I will go see Robs trailer trash shit but it will not replace the original!!!! Shane and its Jamie Lee Curtis! Come Back Home We Need You! Shane this time!!

jason
05-02-2009, 07:04 PM
Sometimes I wonder where you come from my friend! How in the world could you not like the classics? There is no way in swine flu that the classics can ever be out did! As far as Halloween.....

No character?...... Ummmm TYLER! His name is Michael Myers!!|
No Story?...... Its about a kid thats screwed in the head and as he growes up hes still screwed in the head! He kills his family and stalks his sister her whole life!!!
Not Scary?.... What can be scarier than a Sick-O stalking you night and day trying to kill you and you have to watch over your shoulder 24/7!

Tyler my friend HALLOWEEN WILL ALWAYS BE MY FAVORITE! I will go see Robs trailer trash shit but it will not replace the original!!!! Shane and its Jamie Lee Curtis! Come Back Home We Need You! Shane this time!!

sorry tyler but i have to second shane's thoughts.

Dr. Giggles
05-02-2009, 09:54 PM
Same i third shanes thoughts, tyler i am immensly dissapointed in you. Ha, but i hated what they did with the mask, it looks like they reveal part of his face from what i saw in the trailer. That kinda humanizes him and takes away most of the creepy factor in my opinion.

Nightgore
05-02-2009, 11:12 PM
Sorry, but your talking to a younger generation... GET WITH IT! The oldies... all kinda SUCK compared to what's been pumped out lately! All the remakes (Halloween, Amityville Horror, Friday 13th, The Omen, Texas Chainsaws, etc.) have all been WAY better than the originals.

There's no argueing it, they're just better. From production, type of film (yes, it's better too), to the actors. I'm tired of just random "bad guys" going "psycho" and killing "everybody" with some "object"... let's have STORY... like... WHY did he/she go crazy? WHY that killing object? WHY? WHY? WHY?

Enough said. -Tyler

graystone
05-03-2009, 02:22 AM
Sorry, but your talking to a younger generation... GET WITH IT! The oldies... all kinda SUCK compared to what's been pumped out lately! All the remakes (Halloween, Amityville Horror, Friday 13th, The Omen, Texas Chainsaws, etc.) have all been WAY better than the originals.

There's no argueing it, they're just better. From production, type of film (yes, it's better too), to the actors. I'm tired of just random "bad guys" going "psycho" and killing "everybody" with some "object"... let's have STORY... like... WHY did he/she go crazy? WHY that killing object? WHY? WHY? WHY?

Enough said. -Tyler

Us older guys or the older generation as you call it can work circles around you younger and most of the time lazier generation! Sorry buddy truth is truth. And why knock a movie just because of its age. Let me remind you that you would not be seeing these remakes if it were not for the older generation having the vision and talent to write produce and direct them.

Its just like music now days hell they cant come up with their own stuff they have to take the classic songs and distroy them with stupid music ,sounds and vocals! Just as the case with the remakes if these guys have any talent they would come up with their own stuff and leave the classics alone!!!!!!!!I am not a fan of Robs trailer park trash with its F*ck this and G** Damn this! You did not hear alot of that in the classics!!!!But anyway at least he did write and direct his own script with House of a 1000 Corpses.

How can you say they are way better than the origionals? What are you comparing them to? The originals came first so how can you say a remake is better? It may be as good but cant be better. You say from production, to film, to actors. Again all of these young guys all had older idols and icons as role models as far as actors go and yes film is better bla, bla , bla that just comes with new and improved technology. Ever seen a old black and white show or film where color was added take the Wizard of Oz when color was added that did not take away from the film being a classic the color just enhanced an already great classic movie!

Lastly not everything needs a why, why, why to it for it to be good thats just plain stupid and again your repeating what someone else said and hes an oldie too! LOL did not think I would catch that one did ya? Sorry my friend your gonna loose this battle of the Horror classics with me on this! So now Tyler I have got with it and gonna stick with it on this one!! Shane and its I don't need a why, why, why to slap ya around on this one! Shane this time!!!!

Darkangel
05-03-2009, 07:52 AM
Tyler,

You just lost any shred of credibility in your argument from your last post, it seems you're more interested in being opinionated and winning your argument than being sensible. Enough said? You're points weren't THAT good....

There is no way in God's green Earth that Zombie's crap can hold a candle to the Original. Carpenter was a genious compared to Zombie. Zombie has not done anything original he's based everything off the Classics you say sucked and he keeps using the same untalented actors film after film. Plus the Halloween music theme is nothing short of brilliant and infused in our pop culture, seriously could you imaging Zombie's attempt at making something on that scale? Of course not he'll keep Carpenter's vision there....

Every generation thinks that what they do is better than the one prior. This new generation of film makers has no vision thats why you are even seeing Halloween films again, as well as Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, Salem's Lot I heard, Texas Chainsaw, and all the other classics that these new untalented guys have to use because they can't bring anything new to the table. Look at the Saw movies, same thing every film just think of a handful of ways to torture and kill people and WHAM you have a movie that this generation will like. You've seen so much crap lately that now filmmakers know they can put out just about anything and people like Tyler will eat it up!

And you talk about better actors now? Let's see, in recent Halloween films you've seen rappers like LL Cool J, etc. And Busta Rymes starred in one for crying out loud. Then you've seen Kelly Rowland from Destiny's Child and the list goes on from bad modern horror movies sucking so bad they needed to try to boost sales in their movies by bringing in even worse actors and rappers to appeal to kids. You didn't see rock stars or or pop culture icons in the Exorcist or Halloween or any of those movies. By the way, Hell will freeze over if this generation makes a horror flim 1/10th as scary as the Exorcist.

Again Tyler, you are worng it's not an age thing it's originality vs. people taking it adding a small twist and modernizing it and saying it's better where it's clearly not.

Darkangel

Darkblood
05-03-2009, 08:50 AM
Woah...the new stuff is *better* than the originals...
No way!
The new movies coming out (well, remakes, since Hollywood ran out of ideas) while I find them decent or worth a watch in no way outdo the originals.
The originals have that atmosphere and build...and a lot of them show you can be scary without gory.
Now I love the gore and effects in the new ones...but c'mon...the originals are classic!
But this new "Let's explain that Michael Myers was trailer park white trash that got picked on as a kid and he went nuts and killed..." Ummm, yeah, that's scary...not! It was scarier when you were like Omigosh! What is up with this guy? Is he the boogeyman or what? Why?
It's called imagination which a lot of the newer generation in movies is lacking...oh lets take the original, change it, and add 50 buckets of blood...yep...done...
Halloween - remake was decent but you cannot ever match the feel of the original!
Amityville Horror - this pretty much sucked compared to the original.
Friday 13th - decent remake that made Jason somewhat scary again (but not like the originals-disregarding the latter ones)
The Omen - Didn't see this remake yet (don't have any drive to)
Texas Chainsaws - this was the best remake I think as far as being frightening...but the originals still bug me more than this.
And I'm only 32, so I 'get' this generation...I grew up with these and the new stuff. You have to respect and appreciate the originals...without them...there'd be no remake crap for the 'new generation'.
lol

Kirk

graystone
05-03-2009, 09:10 AM
Amen! Shane and thats all that needs to be said! Shane this time!

jason
05-03-2009, 10:23 AM
I know many die hard movie fans that are your age and a few years older that would agree the original horror movies are better then these remakes. Plus, I'm not to conisder myself to be old. I'm only 9 years older then you.

Nightgore
05-03-2009, 10:25 AM
There isn't a "battle" here and no one is going to win because my thoughts on it all won't ever change!

'Nuff said. -Tyler

Mike Honcho
05-03-2009, 10:30 AM
different times different scares just ask any old folks the exorcist was the scariest film ever made. I don't think its scary but every new scary movie has something they took from these old movies. how many times are we going to see a girl with long black hair with jerky movement .... just like animal house almost all the old folks clam this was soooo funny back in the day I saw it and didn't think it was all that funny but at the time it was movies like those that stepped out and did something different. just using those as examples but if you ask any younger person to watch the newer era movies and then watch the old ones they will almost say every time " you guys thought those were scary ?" well yeah it was a different time and the first of its kind now every movie has a silent killer with a knife or whatever so the kids are so used to these tactics by now

but I do love the old halloween movies eps number 6 " mommy its raining red " I love it

and yeah I will go see the new halloween but I do feel like the whole white trash gig is getting old faaassst

just my 43 cents

Dr. Giggles
05-03-2009, 01:14 PM
Tyler, way to rally people against ya bro.

Ha, it is your opinion and i am not going to try to change it, but all these people made great arguments as to why we support the classics.

Honestly I liked to consider the old Michael Myers kind of the classiest of all killers. He could freak you out, and get under your skin. WITHOUT the excess of gore that you see in horror movies these days. I mean the original halloween freaked people out mainly because it didnt make sense! It made them leave the theater wondering why he did it, could anyone just snap like that? It scared people, every movie rob zombie seems to touch automatically has the white trash. Anyone else noticing this?

Jolly Pumpkin
05-03-2009, 01:32 PM
Well, I think Halloween 2 looks incredible based on the trailer. But many things can be done to a trailer to make a crappy movie look like the best thing since sliced bread. I wouldn't want to see them just recreate number 2. It would be pointless to see it since I can just pop the original movie into my DVD player. As far as classics go, not all the Halloween movies were that great with the exception of the original. There are many reasons why the original can't be topped.

1-The cinematography: In the original You were made to feel as if you were looking through the eye holes of Michael Myers with the camera angles that were used and it created a sense that you were on a journey with the killer. You rode along in the car as Michael Myers stocked Laurie, you saw what Michael saw as He hid behind a tree or stabbed his victim against the wall. When He killed you killed in a sick way. In the new Halloween the camera angles are so slick that it comes off as not being realistic where as in the original it felt as if you were looking through the eyes of a killer.

2-The Colors that were used. In the original Halloween some great colors were used such as deep blues, purples and orange that are associated with the holiday Halloween. This isn't the case with the remake. It's all just too perfect in the way it looks. The original Halloween was a piece art in the way all the colors blended together.

3-The intro: The intro of the original Halloween will never be matched by another horror movie. It's just that plain and simple. The combination of the dramatic music and incredible views of the jack o lantern created a feeling that you were being stalked and that something truly frightening was waiting for you after the opening credits ended.

4-The music: No horror movie today can match the music that was used for the original Halloween. It was suspenseful, creepy and downright genius in the way it made people feel.

5-No back story on Michael Myers. There was no reason to have a back story for Michael since we already knew he was a psycho path since He escaped from a mental institution because He murdered his sister. It didn't make too much sense to have Michael Myers family as hillbillies because everyone knows He's just plain evil. There is no need for an explanation. It ruins the mystique of the character. Michael killed because He could and because He was the epitomeof evil that never died.

6-The characters. Most of the characters in the original Halloween you could relate to and felt real instead of being created by a screen play.

7-Michael Himself. Like I said earlier, Michael was pure evil and there was no need to explain why. He was supernatural in the way he appeared from the shadows and would never die. In the new Halloween Michael just appears to have super strength and it doesn't make too much sense on how he became that strong. There were a lot of holes in the character of Michael Myers where too many things weren't explained.

8-Death scenes were somewhat believable. While the death scenes in the original lacked blood they were plausible. Someone could be strangled or stabbed in real life where most of the deaths in the newer Halloween movies are extremely far fetched.

There aren't many horror movies today that can match classics such as Halloween and it's just a shame. The last horror movie that really impressed me was The Descent.

Darkblood
05-03-2009, 01:33 PM
lol
I'm just glad this is a 'good clean fun' debate and nobody is taking things personal and hating on one another...different strokes for different folks! :)
Regardless, Tyler, you're still my haunt brother! :)

Kirk and it's Classics are still the best Kirk this time!
(Wait did I just rip someone off? See, it's like a remake of a Shane thread...only not as good as the original...lol)
:D

drfrightner
05-03-2009, 02:09 PM
Rob Zombies Halloween isn't even 1/10th as good as the original no way because the charactor development isn't good. You didn't really feel sorry for anyone being killed you don't even know them plus all the trailer park trash stuff which seems to haunt all of his movies.

Halloween is a top 10 period!

However I did like the movie overall I thought some of the things he did was cool, I liked seeing him grow up in an asylum that was cool. I did like all the back story stuff that was okay not great but not bad either. I though the new Myers was way more brutal and that was cool.

The mask was way better ten times scarier so I liked the movie overall.

I think the new one will be worth a view based on the last one.

Lets be honest what was better Rob Zombies remake of Halloween or that pile of crap remake of Friday the 13th? Enough said! So I'll go with Halloween this August!

Larry

HauntChris
05-03-2009, 02:14 PM
Yikes! Not a good start for the RNs, huh?

One of Michael Myers' Victims from H2: http://shocktilyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=10384


See a pic of MM and read the story on this link: http://weareatomik.com/?p=1389

Kevin Dells
05-03-2009, 04:27 PM
My thoughts are where are the Freddie, Jason and MM types of movies now?

You have the usual Saw/Hostel types and of course your japenese horror that are being brought to the states( The Ring) but where are todays new character classics that will be duplicated 30 years from now?

Can't writers write anything with some new characters and storylines, i know i would be thrilled as hell if i saw a trailer for a movie with some new kick ass creature/slasher/whatever?

My favorite horror flick of somewhat new was Silent Hill because of the creatures and the storyline, i know it was based off a videogame but dam that had awesome creatures, the darkness/air raid sirens creeped the shit out of you, and the effects were cool.

They need to make more flicks like that, something with a story and monsters.

Not just super distressed walls and blood and gore, thats so old already and never required sequels.

hauntman666
05-03-2009, 05:53 PM
I think the movie still looks sweet and definately will be going to see it anything that zombie has done i like

Darkangel
05-04-2009, 07:50 AM
Just saw the pic that HauntChris linked, this guy doesn't even look like Myers. He basically looks like an outdoorsman gone mad, and showing part of his face ruins the mystique behind the character. Loomis always referred to Michaels eyes revealing his evil giving him more mystery now its obvious its some guy where you can see half his face.

I'm not big on remakes, but now I'm hoping Carpenter or someone else will come back and remake zombies movies back into what Myers was intended to be, a faceless, expressionless, killer....

Darkangel

graystone
05-04-2009, 08:50 AM
thinks hes making the Texas Chainsaw.... That looks more like Leather face then Michael Myers! I think he should use that face and put it on his wife that way we want have to hear all the filth come from her mouth! Shane and its John Carpenter where are you? Shane this time!

Darkangel
05-04-2009, 09:03 AM
Preach on Shane preach on I agree 100%!
It also annoys me that people who are fans of Zombie's music feel that they HAVE to like his films as well, I've noticed that too.

zombiehorror
05-04-2009, 12:36 PM
With all the talk about the Halloween II remake I just had to check out Rob's Halloween remake again.....So I headed over to a free movie site as there is no way I would pay to have this in my horror movie collection! I didn't really recall all that much about the films beginning and after viewing the first half again now I know why!! I must have tried to block it all out of my memory. I only watched up to Michael going to the sanitarium and didn't care to watch anymore even though the last half of the movie is the only thing I find worth watching.

This movie goes right in with the dysfunctional family stuff as many have mentioned here....'cept I think it was referred to as "trailer trash family". The whole point of Halloween and one Rob obviously didn' t get is that Michael was a normal child with loving parents! Not to mention in the original he was only 6 when he killed his sister, not some dumpy-picked on 10 year old dork that goes postal. I know it's Rob's vision and all but there's very little vision to turning Michael Myers into a run of the mill serial killer, I can see that on any number of tv shows or movies. Oh scary he mutilated small animals when he was young, whoopty f'n doo put a bullet in him already!

I loved House of 1000 Corpses and Devils Rejects not for their originality mind you (because there really wasn't any) but for the homages that they were. Rob really gets that kind of cinema and genre but he obviously doesn't know what made the classics classic and instead infuses Halloween with the sleazier-grittier horror of the 70's, everything that made House and Devils work and had nothing to do with the original Halloween.

I don't mind remakes, I even like some of them though usually don't prefer them to the original. And all this talk about Hollywood running out of ideas because of remakes is crap remakes have existed since the beginnings of cinema. It's very easy to look back at a 20-30 year old film and think, "Man they should have done this that way or that this way." or use new advances in f/x to enhance them but it will never make the remake in any way superior to an original vision.

I'll probably be checking out Halloween II (because somehow I'm hoping Rob will redeem himself with it) on one of the free movie sites but ain't know way in hell I'll be paying to see it.

drfrightner
05-04-2009, 12:43 PM
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MDKing
05-04-2009, 02:16 PM
It looks like Zombie is taking his copycat approach one step further in this by ripping off elements from early friday the 13th movies whereas his mother is encouraging him to kill....


Allan