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    Thanks Mr. Haunt, I really agree with Allen's idea as well. This is the 3rd year of the haunt at the Relay in full blown scale. We emailed a couple storage locations and they offered a couple month storage but no one was able to donate year round storage. The reasons we could not afford to pay for storage was because the school provides us with a small event budget that we only have access too for the preparation and duration of the event. So it doesn't cover storage.

    Thanks Jim, I really wish we were able to do that! Once I graduate college and become financially steady enough to go pro, I'll gladly take that advice and apply it to my future attraction.
     

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    If you really are going to go pro, you should keep working on this free storage angle instead of the yearly disposable haunt. No one is going to want PVC pipe and black plastic.

    It could be a longer term relationship for the lumber yard where a small but unique banner is placed at the event. Then also the local contractors or builders group, the chamber of commerce and the storage place all offer portions until all the finances are covered.

    Perhaps there is some charity that also wants an event in the fall and they can also be made into Christmas panels and some whacky photographer and a theatrical group needs use of some "flats"

    There you have a mini college income business when this exceeds the costs of storage and transportation. Being able to secure sponsorship, many small donations to equal one big expense is one of the major skilz. Also finding raw materials on Craigslist under materials.

    This whole undertaking could become your college thesis on helping the community.

    So, you take Jim's idea. Who needs 100 pieces of 3/4 inch sheets. Some home builder who also happens to want advertising/mention at a charity event, happens to have a small warehouse for his building supplies and can take that raw material and use it as floor underlayment. Instead of buy stuff, input lots of labor and then treat the landfill to some hydrocaron goodness.

    If you can demonstrate this cycle of business, you might not need that degree in basket weaving.
    Last edited by Greg Chrise; 11-11-2010 at 07:12 PM.


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    This haunt that wants $100,000? You really need to talk to them instead of just poo poo this idea. Whats the harm, they get to donate a few panels, get them back and can still theoretically sell them for $100,000 which isn't really ever going to happen by the way. By time they sell everything for $2500 is will all be a rotted mess if it isn't already.

    What kind of square footage is this maze thingy? How many walls do you think you need? What is the budget for the event. What haunt is it that wants $100,000? What is their phone number? Is there any news articles on your schools participation in the Relay for life? How much has been raised in total last year?

    How many participants are there, what is the population of the town you are in?
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    Hey Greg, Sorry I took a while to respond I went away for the weekend with family.

    I am not the owner of this haunt, all donations belong to the organization and so turning it into a business is not anything I have power over. I might have a hit on free storage though! One of the freshman in Colleges Against Cancer at my school has family involved in the storage business and he's checking into it for us. It looks really positive.

    We already have 90% of the props and costumes, and about 30 walls, which is all I could fit in the basement at my parents house. But hopefully this freshman's storage connection really pays off.

    My budget right now is $750 for entertainment, (last year I started with $1000), so we have been sliced a large amount. So I'm working on some fundraisers that can help us bring in some more funds to put the event together.

    The maze is about 2,500sq ft. This year we want to bump it up to 3,000. (Mind you this is all built in one day, it's an incredible and inspirational story really.) We need about 50 or so more walls.

    The event is one of the largest in our area for college Relay's, and it is a big deal at our school, it gets a ton of press between news and newspaper, and we blow it up on Facebook and other social networking sites to get the word out. We sort of take over for the weekend :-)

    Thanks for your input and advice, it's really appreciated!
     

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    Instead of 300 4 by 8 wall panels , maybe a singular maze would be much cheaper figuring the cost per/customer by the number of wall panels.
    If say 200 customers take 20 minutes to pass through 300 panels in a maze, maybe it would be cheaper to just take those wall panels and make coffins from each 1.5 wall panels. Then these would contain and secure one customer each for 20 minutes.
    Then open the coffin, let them run!
     

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    Nice Jim! We can just do a human operated "last ride" and throw dirt on the lid to freak them out while they're in there! Thanks for the singular maze idea.
     

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    I'm coming in late on this, but another wall material option for lightweight walls could be 4' x8' Masonite panels over 2 x 2s. The Masonite is made with fire retardant already added and usually runs between $5.50 and $6.00 a sheet in most areas. Of course it will not give you the strength factor of a 1/2" plywood wall, but will hold up infinitely better than plastic sheeting. It takes paint well with one coat usually and can also be wall papered as well. The biggest drawback I know of is that it can and will warp under adverse weather conditions, so if you go this route, don't scrimp on the screws when attaching to your framework. Another tip on 2 x 2s is to rip your own out of 2 x 4s rather than buying them precut. If you have access to a table saw rip them to exactly 1-1/2" by 1-1/2". This will give you a drop piece slat the size of lattice material that although you may not think would be useful, can be used in dozens of applications. But most importantly it makes your framing material much more universal and easier to work with when building the walls. And, when purchasing 2 x 4s from your lumber yard, make sure to pick them out yourself rather than letting the stockman choose them for you. Check each one to make certain they are straight and not warped. This will make ripping them much easier, and never store the raw material upright leaning against a wall. Kiln dried lumber is never really dry completely and they will almost always warp over the course of a day or two.
     

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    Round here there is an entire underbelly of community events and charities. The events can only be judged by the number of porta potties at the event or how much money was raised is a small amount of time.

    Your whole event raised more than $27,000 last year. The highest college type event raised $51,000. What this tells me is how to have an increase in your event every year by wether or not to invest in real wall panels. Yes, you should. Anything over $25,000 is a good event.

    So there are some tricks to procuring wood for panels. They might even be doors from various junk shops or the entire habitat for humanity restore pallet of donated paneling that isn't really up to home building quality but, they had such stuff donated. Same for paint. You can hit paint stores and actually offer them a value for their mis mixed paint for a tax write off. Not only is there owes and Home Depot but all sorts of old skool paint shops that previouly had no way to get rid of this stuff.

    A bold move would be to have the event also include habitat for humanity in the area as well as a food bank of some kind that generally has a big ass network of advertising and bilboards.

    All thought this is much more big picture than is there something cheaper than black plastic, this event is going to have something every year and how hard it is to do should be made far more easy. The better quality makes it far more safe and a real investment simply increases how popular it would be to participate in it.

    The real payoffs are generally meeting people in the community that you otherwise would never have the inclination or excuse to meet. The cross overs for your event and when ever there is some fund drive for other charities simply makes the whole town more sufficient and not at a burden in hard times.

    This makes who ever came up with this idea a god of philanthropy. All the events thrive and moreso than if they were just left stangnant as they are and seperate. Then instead of ever seeing a cut in funding, the questions will be what if we put a couple thousand into this thing. You are also entertaining people that are family and friends of relay participants and the more things there are to do the better. The more quality your stuff looks the more can be raised per haunted house victim. We are talking thesus level research project here. Honorary doctorate. Free lemonade!

    What would happen if you got serious about this? Well, you would have developed the one to one relationship wether it happened the way you wanted it to or not and done all the fact finding missions that will pay off big time for any future resource scrounging. Only you actually did it once, didn't just dream it or theorize it could happen. It doesn't matter if you are the events big cahoona or not. Certainly you scout out these ideas and get them to the proper channels but, some of this may simply be oh sure we have 50 gallons of paint over here we don't know what to do with.

    Some joker donated this whole stack of wood that is kind of moldy and scared up by a fork truck or wild pigs or something and we sure could use the space. Wala, easier stuff to build and something worth storing. Reused over and over instead of lining the landfill every year. Make your charity event more efficient as far as banking resources from year to year.

    One of my pet peeves is how charities actually screw over so many resources that actually cost money and this should make a certain amount back but, they don't because who cares it is all free and everyone volunteered and garbage is garbage. In reality the electric bill went up with this thing happening, the money sort of went out the door and if it doesn't make some serious amount of money or get some serious amount of recognition then it is only a cost that can be avoided.

    Hand the big cahhoona back his $750, thanks pal. I got this. Is this supposed to be 3500 square feet of washer and dryer boxes with little sesame street windows cut in them?

    Just to put things in perspective, there are charities that pay 20% of their take gladly to have an attraction brought in and run. A real investment is how you work toward that. It is recouping your expense for storage and adding more structure every year rather than the money that is supposed to build something from nothin every year.

    This is the way it be's when you are too poor to be a philanthropist.


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    To be a star, you also have a fund raising event that is only haunted house in October and this is where the funds come from to make things great or pump up the event's yearly income if you are into that. Or the October event helps another charity. Same people having fun other times of the year with the same free resources.

    You can independently ask for donations FOR the haunted house or the expense it incurres as it benefits all sorts of things and anyone that is a sponsor gets mentioned in the paper yearly as a keen community participant. In effect free advertising that would otherwise cost 10 times more than they have donated.


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    Or, you buy 100 Taiwanese scuba snorkels and 100 used shovels and half the customers bury the other half alive for 20 minutes. Then reverse roles. The paper gets wind of this performance art and dedication, people paying money to bury each other because it's scary.


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