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    The site I mentioned earlier has some great videos, Im working on my diagram but It wont be done tonight. There is actually a fun video series on this page about the building of their trailor haunts, it can olny help.
    http://www.hysteriacity.com/id116.html
     

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    Just be advised the video is not an actual construction video but modeled after the Monster House TV show. He video tapes guys working all day on one small aspect, then "over night master haunter Scott completed trailer one and everything in trailer two" !!! Can you say movie magic?? Scott unfortunately didn't last too long in this market. He tried to market quanity by calling each trailer a seperate haunt! The Hysteria City concept touted things such as the Hotel, Jail, Meat packing plant, and several others. But these were not individual haunts, but merely rooms or scenes within the one haunt. Not as a slam but as a lesson, trailer haunts are already small by nature. Provide as much "bang for their buck" or your audience goes elsewhere!

    Had a longer post with pictures, that one quick keystroke sent to computer no man's land!!!Poof!!! Gone!!!! Just wanted to comment on this link first then I'll rewrite the other!! Scott is a really nice guy, in trying to be different he forgot that it is the audience that is most important, and they ALWAYS know best.
    R&J Productions
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    OK so now I rewite the other…. Capt. Chaos, as stated there is no real “right” way to build a trailer haunt. One thing must be decided first. Is this a MOBILE attraction built in trailers or a permanent attraction built USING trailers? If you are building a mobile attraction as we have, the key is you have to MOVE everything. That means every ramp, bridge, staircase, façade piece and skirting that is outside the attraction has to either be attached or transported to the site. Larry has a killer façade on his trailer haunt at Creepy World. It is basically a stand alone building that sits in front of the trailer haunt, no way is it portable!!

    Also you have to take into consideration the outward appearance of the attraction. We utilize the 6 trailer configuration because it creates a large box that the audience can drive completely around. It appears quite large and gives you the extra space in the middle should you choose to utilize it.

    OK Sue I’m not slamming your configuration, in fact I am having trouble visualizing it. It obviously works for you and that’s all that counts, but I don’t think from the description that it is mobile.
    You describe it as two trailers parallel 4 feet apart with 3 hallways. I assume these are 3 bridges which means you have to cut 3 separate doors in the sides of each trailer (6 doors or openings) just between the first 2 trailers. I assume you now have to mask these bridges or your audience is always walking “outside”. All of this has to be added once on site.

    We use the 6 trailer configuration because it provides the largest footprint with the fewest doors cut into the trailers. There is only one bridge, you have the choice of having your emergency doors exit to the outside (harder to control) or into the courtyard. The trailers actually touch so you walk directly from one into the other except the one bridge. You can also either use the courtyard or not. We do because it greatly increases the useable space. However what you put in the courtyard must be transported and set up separately. Any separations in trailers must be masked to create the illusion of a single structure.

    The 6 Trailer set up shown would have a front width of 98 to 110 feet. Its depth would be 61 feet.
    That is quite a footprint. If you run 2 trailers parallel they are only 45 feet wide, 16 feet deep.

    Capt. Chaos I would suggest getting the Hauntworld articles, they explain in more detail. The original article in Issue one is no longer in print (sold out). If you don’t have it email me directly and I will send you my original word file. Email me at: consultant@rjproductions.biz

    Good luck!!

    Rich
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    how many emergency exits do you put in? do you build ramps from those doors?
     

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    You can be no more than 50 feet from an emergency exit. The entrance and exit count so one in each side trailer and one in the middle.
    Ramps if required, we use stairs up to a platform in front of each door. Unless a local jurisdiction overrules you, ADA requirements are not required for temporary structures or else every carnival would have to be ADA.
    R&J Productions
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    Thats what i was looking for! Thank you Rich. I will send you a email for that document and I will try and catch up with you in Vegas in Nov.

    Buck
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    I have exits every 45 feet or less, simply because my trailers are 45 feet long. I chose not to arrange mine in a circle because I am using an area off to the left of the manor as well as the areas in between the trailers. I still have the wheels on all the trailers but mine are not easily portable. Mine are located on my property and sit on hard packed dirt, not asphalt. I actually dug holes for support posts under each bridge or walkway. If you are on pavement you obviously could not do that. Like Rich said there are different circumstances to each venue or area where you will have your trailers set up. I do not plan on moving mine. I could but it would take a great deal of tearing down. I have a total of 5270 sq ft which includes the area off to the left that is the childrens playground. People walk through and around in that before exiting. I have room for 2 additional trailers off tp the right when I can afford them. Across the entire front of the facade I have a large porch with columns very close to that of Larrys trailer haunt. You walk up to the middle front of the trailer to the entrance. These are old pictures but it might give you some idea of what can be done with trailers. The fireplace is in the dining room with actor hiding areas on either side. This is a double fireplace with the other side in the master bedroom. Actors can scare both rooms with relative ease. Hope this helps.
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    A company in Buffalo created a haunted trailer show to carry from fair to fair. Used 70 foot office trailers. (had air conditioning for the summer time, it was nice at the county/state fairs) Lined them up side by side nearly an inch away from each other. Laid down steel plates and velcrow curtains to block light and to safely transport to the next trailer. They created a floor plan as if they were together by just cutting doors in to the sides of them. Whats stopping you from taking a bunch of them and doing the same thing. theoretically all you would have to do is get an experienced driver to pull them close together and connect the door ways some how.

    They were kinda stuck with the same floor plan but could change the theme in each room every year. They were great because they were built permanent inside but time destroys the frames. Plus every time they had to move it was costly.

    Easy to assemble, fun to permanently make scenes. pain in the butt to move and level. still though, a time saver.
     

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    First Sue, thanks for the pictures, see what can be done when you don't have to move them!!!!
    It also looks like people do not see the back or maybe even sides of the attraction which means you
    just focus on the facade. If you are in a parking lot, all four sides have to be a facade so you tend
    to use the box style.

    I focus most of the attention in build portable attractions because that will cover more applications.
    But if you do have your own space or space where the trailers do not have to move, a basically permanent
    attraction can be built using the trailers as the building components. If you do NOT move them be aware.
    Under these conditions they could be deemed a permanent structure and would permitted and inspected
    as a "building" instead of a temporary structure. Everything is a matter of interpretation.

    We had a secondary attraction one year that was a wood wall black maze with tarps on top.
    The fire inspector stated there are two ways to look at this, a tent with wood walls which only needed
    one emergency exit, one emergency light, one extinguisher.....or a building with a cloth top which
    would require a sprinkler system. They chose the building!!! I countered with what requirements were
    need for the tent choice, a center pole, guy lines, what?? They said NO they consider it a building!!
    So everything is always a matter of interpretations.

    buffaloSCREAMS13: building in a mobile home trailer has it's advantages and major disadvantages.
    First is transportation and set up. They require a specialized truck and crew to move, skate together
    and level. I have the Asylum that uses these. It costs $1,500 each way to transport and set up just 3
    of the trailers that are mobile homes. It costs be about $700 to move all the rest (9)of the semi-trailers.
    You may have to get a special transportation permit because of the width (another way the city prints money).

    Also you may have different requirements because jurisdictions will have ordinances that cover the
    use of mobile homes. Building in a semi-trailer has very few regulations...so far! Mobile homes may have to
    install hurricane straps. Straps that wrap around the frame and then must be anchored to the ground. It not a
    difficult procedure, just an added step that requires an added inspection, so probably an added fee. The mobile
    homes are not designed for a lot of transportation, not like a semi-trailer. You "level" the semi by lowering the legs.
    The mobile home has to have a crew level it ( I did it once myself, took me 10 hours to do a double wide!)
    They do it in a couple hours. You also have to have it leveled when in storage. They are more critical for
    being leveled. You may have a lot that looks level, but with a 60 foot trailer I have had it 10 inches off the
    ground on one end and over 30 inches on the other side!!! Wheels had to be removed! Makes placing skirting a pain!!

    A good driver can probably get the semis close enough to work with. IF you don't have good driver, you just rent
    a fork lift or borrow if someone is close enough to nudge the trailers. Then you are not building and connectors
    between trailers, you walk directly from one into the other which helps complete the illusion that it is one big structure.
    Not too many houses where you outside every time you go from one room to the other!!

    There are a alot of questions and decisions when choosing any style of attraction. Each has advantages and disadvantages.
    Your job is weight the facts and make the best decision. As a consultant for this style of attraction my job is to help
    define those choices and the ramifications of those choices. The decisions that save the most money are usually ones that
    I already learned the hard (and expensive) way!!

    Hope this helps, now I have to get back to actually WORKING on my attractions, before the wife (partner) starts complaining
    about all the time on the computer!!! Good luck!!

    Rich
    R&J Productions
    Las Vegas, NV
    www.LasVegasHaunts.com
     

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    Agreed with you Rich. They were a major pain but as everything has advantages and disadvantages to them. Semi's probably work fairly well. I know a few great haunts that do it this way. You are very right with the cost of moving an office trailer. Its very costly plus road permits. can only move hour after sunrise and an hour before sunset. Definitely cant move them easily with one forklift.

    The advantages with the office trailers is that they are a few feet wider and longer than a regular 48 or 53 footer. like i stated previously if you were planning on carting it around in the summer for fairs, they usually have air conditioning which is almost a reason on its own to go thru during a hot summer day while walking the fair grounds hahaha.

    I helped revamp a few office trailers for a haunted house and also a Horror Movie Museum. Great ideas, but can only use them for so many years. unless you completely switch them up!

    But otherwise you said everything else best!
     

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