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Thread: Groupon Yeah or Nay ... Pros and Cons

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    #11
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    They are in a tough market, but I don't think that it matters. Shocktoberfest is bad ass. One of my all time favorite haunts. The actors in the prison are insane.
     

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    #12
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    One of the oldest haunt owners in my state (his haunt has been open for around twenty years) told me every haunt in my state that tried groupon went out of biz.
     

  3. Default A great deal just got better !!!!! 
    #13
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    Fright factory (south philadelphia) has just given another 13% discount on tix for their friday the 13th sale !!!!! 2 tix are now $25.00 (regular $30.00 each, with no restrictions) glad i waited !!!!! With these deals not only me, (but alot of cutsomers) can now afford to attend these events !!!!!
     

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    #14
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    I remember someone saying they'd rather have 20,000 people paying $30 each than 30,000 people paying $20 each. More people more headaches and the show suffers.

    Jake
     

  5. Default Not gonna happen up this way. (paying full price) 
    #15
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    Everybody is outta work. Philly is a very depressed area right now. The only ones selling out here are the eagles (football), taylor swift, and oh, ya...... Black sabbath just sold out too. (august 10th), but it took a while....
    Were not trouble makers, we're just customers. Maybe they'll sell more food, t-shirts, etc. With all the security they have there, there won't be any problems. I go every year, both mentioned attractions are great shows. At least this year, (the way things are) i will still be able to attend. Thank you groupon , living social deals, and amazon local deals. Thank you !!!!
     

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    #16
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    Larry sometimes I wonder if you started this haunt forum just to bash everyone else in the industry or just to feed your ego. It's one thing to give your thoughts on something but you always need to take it to a different level. You always have an opinion about what other people are doing wrong , but do you really want to hear what we all think about you and your bullshit, i bet not. You know like how you take 2 months to piss and moan about how opening your haunt for transworld is just to much for you, and then the next 2 months telling us how transworld is begging you please Larry oh please open your haunt this year or might not have a convention , save us save us. And 3 months showing everyone all the new stuff your buying and rebuilding with the money you've made off your fellow haunters.

    Or maybe how your bash companies that you don't work with or that don't kiss your ass. Or maybe you can tell us all about your thoughts on safety , oh wait please do us a favor and don't.

    So you can call what I and other haunts like Shocktoberfest do Desperate and I'll call what you do Disgusting

    It would be nice if you tried to help this industry and not just piss on it and be little and bash it and the people in it , every chance you get

    But that's just my view.

    Robert j Dudzieck
    Fright Factory
    Philadelphia
     

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    #17
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    Fright Factory and Shocktoberfest for their generousity Thanks, guys !!!
     

  8. Default Living social just gave us an extra 20% off on haunted house tix !!!!! 
    #18
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    This deal only gets better !!!! Glad i waited living social-philly- fright factory tix !!!!
     

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    #19
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    John we at Fright Factory changed our thinking a few years back and stopped giving ad companies $100,000 a year , and instead are giving that money to the costumers in the form of better deals on tickets. Larry and who every else wants to thinks it's desperate can think what they want I really don't give a shit, I do what I do because it works and it's good for our costumers and for our haunt.

    Robert Dudzieck
    Fright Factory
    Philadelphia PA
     

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    #20
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    Robert,

    You are an idiot for the comments you made flat out... I never started anything to bash on anyone. This topic has been brought up 100 times already and I say the same thing every single time... marketing your haunt through groupon is a bad marketing move flat out. Its REALLY hard to explain WHY its a bad move but it is.

    I will TRY to explain it again, but the reason why I'm saying you are an idiot for saying what you said is because I've spent 15 years on this forum posting great information for people. I started this forum as a way to help people communicate and when you look at the trading board alone we've helped people sell and buy millions of dollars of stuff every year. So give me a break... secondly I'm not bashing on this haunt for doing groupon I'm bashing the whole idea in general. In my opinion and I stand by it 100% marketing your haunt on groupon is a desperate move that is my opinion.

    I saw you bashing on this haunt about his naked promotion so maybe you can find things to bash on yourself, just like you bashed on me as well. So now that we cleared that up let me clarify for you...using MATH!

    With YOUR HAUNT lets say you SELL 1000 tickets at full price that is $25,000 lets say $25 per ticket.

    With Groupon they typically want 40% I've heard of much more maybe less... we''l go with this number $10,000 to them, $15,000 to you! On top of this you have to give THEM a discount it has to be a deal involved so lower than full price correct? Yes! So now your 25 went to 15 now maybe its down to 10 so you just lost lets say for sake of argument $15,000 on the full ticket price.

    Okay but next you are going to say "Yeah but Groupon sold those tickets through their marketing effort" ... okay yes you are right we agree. However...

    As I pointed out you've gone from 25 to 15 to 10 thousand dollars... so what you should have if you sold the tickets is 25,000 but all you actually have is 10,000 dollars. Groupon sold 1000 tickets... Essentially you gave away $15,000 now if you run off to a radio station you can buy $15,000 in radio spots in most cases you could get maybe 150 spots maybe more. What would generate more business ??? I'm going with the 15k in radio spots and I'm betting that could bring in 3 or 4 thousand people at full price not 1000 at 60% off.

    Here is another example you can take $15,000 and at .20 per click through on Google you could get 75,000 guaranteed click thru to your website... that is guaranteed! How many customers can you flip from that group... lets go with 5% that is 3,750 full price customers which generates $93,750 dollars minus the marketing dollars leaves a profit of $78,750.00

    So when you use my math you'll see groupon is for people who are unwilling to spend the money, take the risks in their own attraction and would rather a hand out... again my opinion and I think I'm right has nothing to do with ego just MATH and the faith that your attraction is worth the risk.

    So again I spent another 20 minutes of my life trying to help you brother, and other haunts has nothing to do with ego!

    Your comments are not appreciated.

    Larry
     

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