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Thread: Beware of Camera-pointing "Gypsies!"

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    Trying to look and sound SO important and potentially helpfull to your haunted business, just give them 15 hours of your precious time (right now) and sign those waivers allowing them to make as much free-money off of your hard and creative efforts as they possibly can!
    Don't worry, they gave you their phone number and e-mail address, both of which will fall into the great abyss of "Good-By Sucker"! As soon as their back bumper clears your drive way!
    That is how they operate. They are out there.
    You were warned.
     

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    Jim, is this what happened to you? Pray tell!

    Sarah
     

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    So somebody was taking pictures of your haunt in order to go create their own? And you signed waivers to allow it, thinking you were signing something to allow them to help you improve your haunt? Just trying to understand.
     

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    Maybe he thought it was for press coverage?
     

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    I guess Jim will fill us in on the details.
     

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    As I have said many times, just because you have enough money to buy a camera doesn't give you the right to steal all of my ideas, then make money off of them.
    (Maybe my family and I should be first in line for compensation from my ideas and long hours of work? Now there's a foreign concept to those people!)
    I have helped a fair number of high school and college film students create works about my house that did lead to their further sucesses and measurable rewards in this field. Funny thing is all I ever asked from them in return was a copy with no copyrighted theme music playing in the backround, yet this did not happen.
    The "professional" crews can be great or terrible to work with but still not one penny of compensation coming my way(are the cable companys paying the Jackass Boys too much that there is nothing left for me?
    "Dog The Booty-Hunter" gets paid, the screaming idiots throwing Harley parts at each other get paid, the guys making hot rods showing us how to go blind welding without goggles get paid, and the roto-rooter guys chasing breaking wind in the dark all get paid. ?
    ??????????????????
     

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    Sounds like at the very least you need to create your own "contract" that they have to sign in order to take pictures stipulating that they give you a copy (with no copyrighted background theme music) and whatever other stipulations you want to add. Perhaps you should also start charging them to take pictures and to help them out?
     

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    Jim, most definitely get yourself a lawyer to draw up a contract for such occasions.

    When people flinch at the idea, all you have to do is let them know you've been
    swindled many times and that by doing this, *all* of you are protected.

    You've been very generous with people; it's time to be generous to yourself.

    Sarah
     

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    Me getting their social security number from an I.D. would be a beginning move too on my part.
    A newspaper reporter would almost always ask me for one hour of my time. It always took 3.
    Students with a video camera would need my personal help and input for many continiuos hours , of My Time..that I could be doing something else, maybe making more money or resting up to be able to make more tours possible that night.
    Besides the lost time, there would sometimes be things I would have to clean up when they were hitting the road (to their bank) Other times I had to spend money to repair or replace something they had messed with..
    I grew up in the generation when if someone had any kind of a camera to point at you it was a rare ocassion not like now when every cell phone, every downtown light post has a camera pointed at you.
    So watch your ego, make sure you really need or want that camera's attention.
     

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    And Sarah is correct that it's time to start putting you and your wife first now!
     

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